Jane Dodson Flemming, Dodsons and Brassfields

For Jane Dodson Flemming, wife of David Willie Brassfield and mother of David Sidney Brassfield.

In one record – I can’t remember which, perhaps the Wake County marriage record, her name is spelled Jane Dotson Flemming. This was a mis-spelling. I know my father found it, and most of what I see on Ancestry about any of our families, both right info and our mistakes, seems to start with his information. Her middle name was her mother’s maiden name, Dodson.

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=NCMarriages&h=2218454&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=505  Robert Flemming married Polly Dodson on 27 Feb 1794 in Granville, NC. (HOTCHA.)

Dodson site, well documented:  http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/a/l/Jacque-B-Hall/GENE2-0001.html

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2. WILLIAM2 DODSON (CHARLES1) was born Abt. 1742, and died January 24, 1791 in Granville Co., North Carolina. He married FRANCES GILLIAM December 30, 1763 in Granville Co., North Carolina.

[ME: (Kristen)          Notes for Frances: http://home.roadrunner.com/~gilliamsofva/AlliedFamilies/HarrisFamily/HarrisFamily.html  The Harris GILLIAMs:  Harris GILLIAM, Sr., son of Charles GILLIAM and Frances, born bef 1700. Births of his children including a William, Harris and James are recorded in records of Bristol Parish, Prince George County, VA. Believed to be the father of William GILLIAM who left a Will in Charlotte County, VA dated 1772. Believed to be father of James GILLIAM who married Martha Isbell.

Ens. Harris GILLIAM, son of William GILLIAM and Agnes (said to be a Harris). Born about 1730. Died about 1803 in Wake County, NC. Married Elizabeth Jordan.

Just wondering if this William could also be the father of Frances Gilliam, who was born about 1740 and married in Granville County, from which Wake county was formed. I need to look at that will in Charlotte County, VA. It would make sense if these two children ended up in roughly the same part of North Carolina.

http://www.gilliamsofvirginia.org/Charlotte/Charlotte.html

“Inventory and Appraisement of the Estate of William GUILLIAM”, 3 Aug 1772 (recorded 3 Aug 1772), “An Inventory and appraisement of the Estate of William GUILLIAM, decd. was this Returned and Ordered to be Recorded.”

Charlotte County, VA, Court Order Book 3, page 135

http://home.roadrunner.com/~gilliamsofva/Lunenburg/Lunenburg.html

A  John GILLIAM is mentioned in the early tithables of Lunenburg. In 1748, John GILLIAM and wife Frances, now of Granville County, sell land in Lunenburg. This John removes to Granville County, NC. Purchasers of his estate include John, Robert, Peter, Amy and Elizabeth GILLIAM. At the marriage of Frances GILLIAM and William Dodson, John and Frances GILLAM were Bondsman, Peter GILLAM and Edward Roberson were witnesses, and Charles GILLAM was also a Bondsman.

             Not verified:

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/DODSON/1998-07/0901221583From: Jacque Hall <halljb@surfus.net> 
Subject: Charles Dodson 1772-1803, Granville Co., NC 
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:19:43 -0500

CHARLES DODSON, son of WILLIAM DODSON & FRANCES GILLIAM married his cousin, LUCY DODSON, daughter of CHARLES DODSON & ELIZABETH (POINDEXTER?) Aug 15, 1801. Charles died 1802/03 and the next mention of this family was a sheriff sale of Charles’s land where Lucy and young son, Daniel lived for money owed to James & Henry Lyne on Nov, 1814. The land was purchased by Stephen Dodson, brother of Lucy. A later deed, when Stephen sold the land, denotes Charles as his brother but Stephen’s father’s will did not mention a Charles but did name Lucy. No further record is found for Lucy or Daniel Dodson.

From: “Jacque B. Hall” <jacquedonhall@msn.com> 
Subject: [DODSON-L] William Dodson 1746-1791 Granville Co., NC 
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:25:43 –0600

William, son of Charles Sr., M. Dec. 30, 1763 Frances Gilliam in Granville Co., NC. He died Jan 29, 1791 and will was probabed in May 1791. He names wife, Frances, sons, William & Charles and daughters, Frances, Polly & Holly.

Frances Gilliam Dodson will of December 1795, probated Feb. court 1796, names sons William & Charles and daughters, Holly Dodson, Frances Turner and Polly Fleming with William Turner and Robert Fleming as her executors. Their children were:

  • 1. William (have 2 possible marriages about same time)
  • 2. Charles M. Lucy Dodson (his cousin) 15 Aug. 1801
  • 3. Frances B. 5 March 1774 M. Wm. Turner 31 Dec. 1791
  • M. 2nd. Wn, New 1812 Wilson Co., TN D. 2 Nov 1852 TN.
  • 4. Polly M. Robert Fleming 27 Feb. 1794
  • 5. Holley M. Wm. Hargrove 12 Feb. 1798

Jacque Bentsen Hall  McAllen, Texas jacquedonhall@msn.com ]

Notes for WILLIAM DODSON:

WILLIAM DODSON’s will was proved in May 1791 Granville Co., NC. court. He names his wife, Frances, to receive the horses, corn crop, furniture & livestock. His son, William, to receive land west of plantation @John Hargrove’s line to mill dam to Richard Hargrove’s line & half the hogs on his Wallin Plantation. His son, Charles, to receive the rest of land at the death of my wife. Furniture was to go to daughters, Frances, Holly & Polly.

William Dodson’s father, Charles Dodson, evidently died shortly after he received the 625 acres of land from Lord Earl Granville May 11, 1756. On August 3, 1760, William Dodson gave his brother, Charles Dodson, 200 acres of the land. (Granville Co. Deed Records Book H, Page 446) He denotes that his beloved mother, Frances, lived on the land and would have use of the house, woods & timber for life and then revert to Charles.

Also, on August 3, 1760 (Granville Co. Deed Book H, Page 445) William gave part of the original 625 acres to his brother-in-law, Nathaniel Robinson, adjoining the plantation where Nathaniel now lives.

The will of FRANCES DODSON dated December 8, 1795 and proved in February court 1796 lists her sons, William & Charles Dodson, daughters Holly Dodson, Francis Turner & Polly Fleming and the executors were William Turner and Robert Fleming. Her will was witnessed by James Lyne, Elizabeth Dodson & Mathey Hargrove.

On December 8, 1806, William Dodson, Jr., sold the land he received from his father, William Dodson, deceased, to Lewis Nicholson.

Children of WILLIAM DODSON and FRANCES GILLIAM are:

  • i.  WILLIAM3 DODSON , JR., b. Abt. 1770; m. CATHY WILLIAMS, January 09, 1792, Warren Co., NC..
  • ii.  CHARLES DODSON, b. Abt. 1772, Granville Co., North Carolina; d. 1802-1803, Granville Co., North Carolina.
  • iii.  FRANCES DODSON, b. March 05, 1774, Granville Co., North Carolina; d. November 02, 1852, Woodbury, Tennessee.
  • iv.  POLLY DODSON, b. Abt. 1776, Granville Co., North Carolina.
  • v.  HOLLY DODSON, b. Abt. 1778; m. WILLIAM HARGROVE, February 12, 1798, Granville Co., North Carolina.

Oh, how I love running into documents.  I accept these.

1800: Robert Fleming in Hillsborough, Wake, North Carolina 3m –10 1 m 16-25 1 m 26-44  1 f-10 1 f 26-44

The Story:

Robert Flemming Sr. was married to a woman named Mary. We only know her from his will, which names her once.  He died about 1795 in Wake County, North Carolina. I do not have any idea where he was born, or who he was born to.

Robert and Mary evidently had more children than are named in the will. In the will, we find Robert Fleming Jr. and Elizabeth Fleming. She is not mentioned in the will by a married surname. And in her own estate, she is recorded as Elizabeth – or more often, Betcey or Betsey, Fleming. She dies very soon after her father, and all her worldly goods go to her brother and mother, the only two surviving members of the family, if we take these documents as definitive.

But we learn later, in about 1804, when the grandson of Robert and Mary sues Mary, who is now married to Harris Gilliam or Gillium. (He has had his own family, quite a few kids – and some people identify his wife by name – Elizabeth, I can’t remember the last name, but I’ve not been shown any documentation on this, either) Mary was executrix of her husband’s Last Will and Testament along with John Pullin (sp?). In the court complaints, Duke Skelton identifies himself as the grandson of Robert and Mary, and in her answer to the petition, she states that he was born to her eldest daughter. So she had at least two girls, and probably a number of other children not identified in the will.

Robert Flemming jr. is also in Wake County. He marries Polly Dodson, the daughter of William Dodson, in Granville, but they live in Wake. Polly Dodson would have been, if the birth date suggested in the below material is right in the 26-44 range indicated in the census entry for Robert and family in Wake, 1800. Her mother, Frances Dodson’s will was proved Dec 8 1795, a year after Polly’s marriage, and one of the execs is Robert Flemming.

They have three children, Jane (she is listed in the docs by a number of nicknames and married as Jeney), John and Robert Flemming. All of these kids are listed in the probate documents, and in one, it is stated that these are all Polly’s children.

But Robert Flemming dies in early 1804, or so – perhaps earlier –  intestate – young, and evidently unexpectedly. In 1805, she marries William Muckelroy, who does not live long after that.

There is no census for Wake County for the years 1810 and 1820, which is a pain. But the probate records fill in that time with a great deal of detail  The children, who are minors under 21 in 1804, board with their mother and her new husband. Robert goes to school, and it’s fun to read about the materials his guardian buys for him.  Caswell Powell is guardian of all the children in 1804, but as the years go on, the guardianship shifts. Robert ends up with George Brassfield (who was a pretty impressive guy) in the last years of his childhood.

There are other Robert Flemings (Flemmings) in North Carolina in those early years, one in Burke County, one in Orange –but the documents all dovetail nicely, and it is the Robert in Wake who marries Polly.

Robert Flemming died by 1804 and Polly married William Muckleroy, of whom little can be found. The documents in the probate show that she is more often known as Mary Muckleroy than Polly.

Jane, the oldest child, married David Willie Brasfield in 1810.  She is my great X3 grandmother through her son, David Sidney Brasfield or Brassfield.

Notes and Documents, including Wills and Probates, some internet references (only ones that are documented), Census, marriage records.

This information is presented in pretty much the order in which I found it, and so is indicative of my research process. If you use this info in your personal records, please site this source so that any questions will be answered, and any admiration for an awesome job of digging out this stuff will be MINE. The information is copyrighted as all my stuff is, and so may not be used for commercial purposes.

It begins:

There are 3 Roberts who come up in the 1790 Anc. Search, one in Burke – and that’s very far west – one in Wake (just south of Granville), one in Rockingham., which is about midway between Wake and Burke, a little closer to Wake, but not close.

1800: one in Hillsborough, Wake, North Car, one in Hillsborough, Orange, NC, the one still in Burke

The one in Wake is 3m –10 1 16-25 1 26-44 1f –10 1f 26-44  Jane, born in 1795, would be under 10.  It’s a stinking alphabetical listing.  There’s a Henry in Hillsboro, Granville. But only the one Flemming in Wake in both decades.  There is no Wake census for 1810 or 20.  But as Granville and Wake share a border, and I have other families that are on either side of such a border, I am satisfied that this Robert is probably the Robert who married the Dodson in Granville.

Also in 1800, there are Brassfields in Hillsborough, Wake and Hillsborough, Granville. – sounds like the area is split by the county line. So this looks very probable. And yes, the Dodsons are also in Hillsboro, Granville. Okay – this threw me for a loop, and I was trying to figure out how these people could be living in the same town spread over at least two counties. The only place I found an explanation was here:

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/NCRANDOL/2005-01/1106763140

“I wonder therefore if what you’re looking at may be Hillsborough DISTRICT, which was a multi-county administrative unit used for the 1790 census. It included Caswell, Chatham, Granville, Orange, Randolph and Wake counties.”

This is why I keep thinking that Hillsboro must be split in two counties. Very confusing. SO this seeming indication of proximity is worthless. The militia districts were done – as Elizabeth explained to me -in six almost vertical broad stripes across the state, crossing from East to west, each district including several counties, each named after a principle township of the area. And they kept that division up into the 1820s or so. WHY???  Hillsborough, written Hillsboro quite often till the other spelling became official, is in Orange County, which does not figure in this story.

1830, David Brassfield is in Wake County. i9/87  (The small “i” denotes an Ancestry or Family Search image number. All census references come from Ancestry – without a membership, you won’t be able to access them. Same with the original files for the wills and probates – and, actually, the marriage records). But I’ve transcribed most of it.

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/KILGORE/1998-01/0884558612

1798 – September, Wake County Court records minutes: “Duke Skelton camed in to Court and made choice of Harris Gillum for his Guardian, who came into Court and entered into bond in the sum of Twelve hundred pounds, with Robert Flemming, William Kilgroe, and Abraham Abbot his securities.”

The significance here is that we will find out that Duke will turn out to have been Robert Flemming sr’s grandson, Robert Flemming Jr’s nephew, and Harris Gillum had married Robert Sr’s wife, Mary, so he was Duke’s step grandson.  I only collected this because Robert Flemming’s name showed up in it and Duke’s sounded interesting.

Probates and Wills

I checked the Granville probates, FS (Family Search), Granville County. I found the following:

Polly Flemming, divisee from Thomas Dodson, Feb 1796 November Book 3 pg. 247.  Unfortunately, the will book is either not digitized on line yet, or it doesn’t exist. I’ll have to check. It was significant to me because I needed to prove the connection between Polly and Jane. But I didn’t realize that Wake, which lost its courthouse to fire in 1832, still had a lot of it’s early paperwork preserved, and beautifully organized.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-194-206047-1-44?cc=1867501&wc=MDRL-S23:170052901,171016301 Wills Vol A. the first one. It’s just n index and doesn’t offer much. But it does seem to establish that there are no wills for Robert Jr. or Elizabeth – or even Polly, evidently.

Wake County Wills and settlements Wake 1794-1797 Vol 3

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/DGS-004772469_00514?cc=1867501&wc=MDRL-Q68:170052901,171070101  Under “F” i4: Robert Fleming pgs 112 and 149, Elizabeth Fleming 162-217-310

Pg 112: March Court 1795 – i70-71/222: Last Will and Testament of Robert Flemming (sr.) dec: In the name of God, Amen. I, Robert Fleming of Wake County and State of North Carolina, being of sound mind and perfect memory and calling to mind the uncertainty of this transitory life do make and ordain  this my last will and Testament and first I bequeath to God . . . bestow as follows:

1st I give unto my son Robert Fleming my sesn? Plantation whereon he now lives to his Heirs and assigns forever and also one Negro woman named Cate and one Negro from Tarlton Embery and six head of cattle one feather bed and furniture and other household furniture now in his possession and twenty pounds Virginia currency.

Item 2: I give to my daughter Betcey Fleming the Plantation where on —live to her heirs and assigns forever – And my Negro Jude and one negro from Tarton Embery, three cows and calves, one feather bed and furniture and one Horse from said Embery to be valued at two pounds Virginia Currency and ten pounds N Money her heirs and assigns forever.

Item 3:  I give to my beloved wife, Mary Fleming, one Negro from Tarlton Embery her lawful right forever. But my negros Dick, B and Peter, also the remainder of my stock and house hold furniture during her natural life and at her Death the above said negro and household property, so lent to her during her life be at her death equally divided between my son, Robert Fleming and my daughter, Betsy Fleming after Wm. Skelton’s dec. (the father of Duke Skelton, husband of their eldest daughter) property is reduced or taken out of my Wife’s above lent portion which is to be paid to his son, Duke Skelton. The above twenty pounds to Robert Fleming and thirty pounds to Betey Fleming is to be raised out of the Bond of eighty  pounds I have against Tarlton Embery and the balance of said bond I leave to pay my debts and any remains to be divided between said Robert and Betsey Fleming. N.B. the division between Robert and Betsey Fleming in the land as follows: that is to begin where Dais? line  enters? Bounlaw? Branch go thence . . .(description) Spring Branch by the meanders to abbots creek to nuece? River. I appoint John Pullin Jr. Robert Flemming and my beloved wife Execs revoking all others. 19th Feb 1795 wit John Gray, Tabitha Allen, Agness Stevens – signed Robert Fleming.  Recorded in the Clark’s office in the Conuty of Wake in Book D pg 112 this 3rd day of June 1797 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/DGS-004772469_00581?cc=1867501&wc=MDRL-Q68:170052901,171070101

i96: Inventory of Thomas Embery.

i95: inventory of Elizabeth Fleming, dec. 1796 September Court. 1 negro woman by the name of Jude, 1 feather bed and furniture, 1 chest 6 head of cattle 1 table, chair saddle.  Robert Fleming admin Wake County.

Pg. 149 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/DGS-004772469_00599?cc=1867501&wc=MDRL-Q68:170052901,171070101

i89  1795 June Court Inventory of the estate of Robert Fleming lent to his wife Mary Fleming by will: 1 negro man named Dick 1 negro woman named Bet, 1 negro boy named peter, 1 sorrel horse 1 gray mare, 10 head of cattle 11 head of hogs and 17 (detailed inventory of house hold goods. Interesting.) 2 latin psaltery prayer book – (every tiny thing in their house). Spinning wheel.  And more people. Signed Robert Fleming and Mary Fleming (son and mother.) Recorded in clerk’s office in the county of Wake in Book D and page 149 this 10th day of June 1797.

Pg 217: i123 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/DGS-004772469_00633?cc=1867501&wc=MDRL-Q68:170052901,171070101

March Court 1796:

  • Acct of the sales of the Estate of Betcey? Flemming
  • Robert Fleming jr: 1 Cow and Calf
  • Abraham Abbot 1 Saddle
  • Robert Fleming 1 cow and yearling
  • Mary Fleming 1 cow and yearling
  • Robert Fleming  Bed and Furniture
  • Mary Fleming 1 counterpain [sic]
  • Robert Fleming 1 ditto
  • Robert  Towel  — Signed Robert Fleming Wake County 6th day of July 1797 March 1796 court

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/DGS-004772469_00679?cc=1867501&wc=MDRL-Q68:170052901,171070101   pg. 310 (i169)  March Court 1797:  To wit I will mention twelve pounds Virginia money and 2 horses is all that I know of Robert Fleming.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-195-372411-1-99?cc=1867501&wc=MDRL-QWL:170052901,171081501 Index Wills Inventories, Settlements 1817-1819 Vol. 14        Robert Flemming pg 7 – 35 – 224  John Flemming pg 11

Pg. 7 (i19): Robert  1816 Robert Flemming in acc’t. (orphan) with George Brassfield (gdn)

Cash from former Guardian. Interest on the Orphan’s balance. Hire of negro Sam.  ? of land for 1816

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-195-372204-1-88?cc=1867501&wc=MDRL-QWL:170052901,171081501 i33 pg 35

Robert Flemming:  Division of Land in Wake County pursuant to an order of the worshipful court of said County Feb term 1817 to us directed we have preceded to divide the lands of Robert Fleming dec amongst the petitionery agreeable to the said order. Report as follows (in case above, George Brassfield is Surveyor)

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-195-372462-1-32?cc=1867501&wc=MDRL-QWL:170052901,171081501   Pg.11 (i21): John Flemming, Orphan of Robert Flemming dec. in account with Henry  Moore Gdn

To this amount recvd from the Estate of Caswell Powell dec former Gdn.  Interest on the same from april 1814 until 24th May 1816 . Hire of Grace (a negro woman belonging to Robert) for 1815. Part of rent of land for 1815 etc. Padi M. Abernatha for board . Paid his part of direct tax for 1813. pd Sheriff for 1813 tax. May term 1817.

Pg 36 (i34):  I, David Brasfield, in right of his wife Jane we allot the lot of Land in the foregoing plat marked No. 2 beginning at a fall of Rocks Jonathan Davis’ Corner thence N 26 degrees West seventy seven poles to a peach here thence E thirty poles to a maple at the Spring thence down the prang Branch to a maple at James Nance so corner – ash on a small branch – alllily? Creek then to the Neuse River to a Hickory on Robert Flemming’s corner  – and on – containing 209 acres who is to pay John Fleming the sum of $64 dollars and seventy cents being his proportionable part.

To Robert Fleming we allot the Lot of land made in the above plat beginning at a hickory in Neuse River Bank at David Brasfield’s corner – etc. including a persimmon tree – being one hundred and twenty one acres who is also to pay John Fleming one hundred and seventy nine dollars being his proportionable part.

To John Fleming, we allot the lot of land – etc. Containing seventy three acres, who is to receive the sum of two hundred and forty three dollars and twenty cents being his proportionable part.

This may certify that the above is a true copy of the Division of lands of said dec agreeable to the annexed plan 26th Day of  Feb 1817.  George Brasfield surveyor.  Wit: Saml High, Oren D Lemon, James Nance, Saml Davis. May term 1817.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-195-371924-1-51?cc=1867501&wc=MDRL-QWL:170052901,171081501  Pg.  224 (i129)  1817:  Robert Flemming Orphan in acct with George Brassfield gdn. Pmts for board, for feeding horse, for his journey,

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/DGS-004772471_00560?cc=1867501&wc=MDRL-SP8:170052901,171080201  index: wills, inv settlements v10 1811-12 Robert – 19  John 53

Robert Fleming orphan of Robert Fleming dec. amt current with Caswell Pwell gdn

1810 Feb 12. accounts. Also Wake, Feb term 1811.  i40 pg 53: John Flemming orphan of Robert Flemming dec. 1810 and 1811

Nothing in index of Wills, Inv, Settl 1783-1794 Vo2 on I 4 Family Search 32

Granville: wills cross index https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-195-2489081-1-30?cc=1867501&wc=MDRX-TZ9:169768301,170212101 vol 1

  • i55: Polly Flemming Thomas Dodson  Feb 1796 book 3 pg 247
  • William Flemming also Edward and Sarah – Edward Weaver 1806 Mar Court book 6 pg 321
  • i56 Milly H Flemming John Dalby 1821 book 8 430
  • i57 Franceis Fleming micajah Bullock 1828 Aug Court book11 pg 2

Timeline:

Robert Fleming m. Polly Dodson 27 Feb 1794 Granville. (The rest of this timeline happens) in Wake.

1795: Robert Flemming’s will: Wake county.  1795. Last will and testament registered. Wife: Mary. Son: Robert Daughter: Betsey. Recorded June 1797

1796: March: Elizabeth (Betsey) dies, probably intestate, as I see no will, 1796 partition. Mentions property noted in Robert Flemming’s will. Buyers of estate, Robert Fleming and Mary Fleming. Elizabeth’s father must have been dec. by this time, as she was in possession of the legacy.

1810: Gdnship reports for Orphans Robert and John Flemming – with 2 ms in Wake County.

1817: Division of land left by Robert Flemming Dec: heirs Jane Flemming, wife of David Brasfield, Robert Fleming and John Fleming.

Thus, we have Robert and Polly married in 1794, and three children born before he dies, which evidently happens before 1810. I have not found a will.  So the kids were born 1795 (Jane) then  – I don’t know.  Two boys between 1796 and 1810.

Robert’s own father died in 1795 or so, leaving a wife, Mary, and two children, Robert and Elizabeth, the later of whom died just after her father in spring of 1796.

Probate File: Robert Flemming Jr. (He died intestate – meaning, without a will)

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21398-13319-73?cc=1911121&wc=M81X-Q23:185203501,183266201,195668301

Estate of Robert Flemming in Wake dated 1804.  Papers are not in chronological order.

86 pages/images.

  • 2.. Feb term 1809, Caswell Powell is to appear before the court as gdn to Jeney, John and Robert Fleming, minor orphans. 28 march 1809.  Joseph Aop?? Ross is admin of the estate of Robert Flemming
  • 4. summon to Hary? Moring? Esq gdn to John Fleming. To  – something David Brasfield and Jane his wife for division of lands of Robert Flemming dec. 5-10 are repeats – one spine dated 1822
  • 13. Sheriff order to summon George Brasfield Esquire gdnn to Robert Fleming jr.  to answer the petition of David Basfield and wife Jane for partition.
  • Image 15: a plat of the property of Robert Fleming dec. Wake County 1806. After being duly qualified had proceeded to lay off and a lot to William Muckleroy and wife her dower in the lands of her dec husband as follows: desc. Signed James Nance, Abraham abbott

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-21398-22406-75?cc=1911121&wc=M81X-Q23:185203501,183266201,195668301 Thomas Proctor, Griffin Randle, Caswel Powell

  • 17. The separate answer of Mary Gilliam (this is Mary Flemming, widow of Robert Sr), Exectrix of the last will and testament of Robert Flemming sr. – to the petition of Duke Skelton – about fund having to do with the sale of the property of William Skelton, dec. made by her husband as admin of estate. Interesting – a likely bay mare is also in question. The defendant further saith that he iss the grandson of the said Robert and herself by their oldest daughter, that during the life of the said Robert they  – 20th Nov 1804 –
  • i19 Accounts names – Mary Gillium, Robert sneed,
  • 20. opinion of the appraisers is that the estate has left not more than is adequate to educate and maintain the children.
  • 22. Jane Flemming gets Harrey and some money, Robert gets Sam and money and John gets Grace and money.
  • 24: William Muckleroy and Polly 1806: petition for writ of partition
  • 26: partition with plat and descriptions: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21398-22722-81?cc=1911121&wc=M81X-Q23:185203501,183266201,195668301
  • 27: end of the above with George as surveyor and wit: Samuel High, Orren D Lamon, James Nance, James Nance jr. Jonas? Davis
  • 29: John, orphan of Robert acct 1811. 31. Justices of pleas and quarter sessions, Allen E. Davis, Johnson Busbee and George Brassfield. Henry Moung?Mooring? Jesse Powell and Henry Jones Neuse bond for survey. 1814.
  • 37: Bond for Jencey or Jiney or Jincy– Jane, in other words, 1806. So Caswell was her guardian, too.
  • 39: George Brassfield becomes Robert’s gdn in 1814
  • 43: Well, here is the answer to why the children are paying for board: they are boarding with their re-married mother, Mary Muckleroy. No longer Polly Flemming.  She has her dower, but is accessing living funds through the boarding fees. Through 1813
  • 45: They’ve been boarding with Muckleroy since at least 1809.
  • 47: report through 1815. Evidently still boarding with mom through 1814 or 15
  • 49: Gardn report for Jane to Casswell.  Through 1810
  • 51. for Robert the same.
  • 53. 1815-1817 sounds like settlement for Robert. Suit of clothes. Partition fees. George Brassfield. Gdn.
  • 55. Henry Moring gdn of Robert and John. 1818
  • 59: interesting document. Wake County Feb term 1806 William Muckleroy and wife, Mary vs. Jane Flemming petition for Dower. Land described. Bounded by the land of Robert Sneed, Jos. Stephens + others
  • 61. mentions Samuel High.
  • 63: Caswell Powell Gdn of John Fleming orphan of Robert Fleming  dec complains that May Muckleroy executrix and desaulant of the estate of  William Muckleroy dec. and Orren D Lamen is indebted to him by note – an order to summons. April 1811.
  • 65: Again, the petition of Duke Skelton against Mary Gilliam exectx and John Pullin exec of the last will and testament of Robert Fleming dec. His father, William Skelton, died  1784-1785 possessed of a very large estate, leaving Duke the only child and only inheritor, as William’s mother had died a short time before. Robert Fleming, grandfather to this petitioner became admin and took possession of the whole estate. The said Robert Flemming died about ten or twelve years ago, having made a will which was duly proven in the court.
  • Duke is pointing out that the execs of his grandfather’s will, and now of his son, Robert Fleming’s will now have ample means to pay Duke. That your petitioner, being an infant, was unable to call upon said exec for a settlement until very lately, that they have failed to make one, although they have been by him frequently thereto requested. Duke is trying to reclaim his own assets, now that the land is going to be broken up.(June 1804)
  • 68. 1811 the petition of Daniel Brasfield jr and Jean (Jane) his wife nee Jean Flemming (Jane in other docs),  calls Robert and John infants, under age – children of Robert Fleming dec late of said county who died in the year — intestate, leaving Mary (this is Polly Dodson Flemming) his widow and your petitioner’s (mother) are entitled to an equal distribution to the estate of the said Robert. It looks like Mary liquidated the estate, took the money and distributed all but 53 pounds of it, with interest now 72 pounds  and won’t pay it out to the children.
  • 70. Robert Accounts – school supplies etc. Paid Hailey for singing school.  1816
  • 84: Polly and William Muckleroy vs the three children (it says Jane clearly), infants under that age of 21 years. Polly says she was the widow, and they were the only children. She became Admin. Paying debts, etc. They were of tender years. She and Williams show that they were married on the 14 November last. Of course, there is no date on the doc.  But there is a marriage record.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21434-35699-65?cc=1911121&wc=MDM4-3ZS:185203501,183204002,200354901

Estate of William Skelton 6 pages:  1804 May. Wake County. The petition of Duke Skelton against Mary Gilman exectrx and John Pullin  exe of the last will and test of Robert Flemming dec.

i5 Harris Gillim, Robert Flemming, Abraham Abbott and Wm Kilgoe are held bound to justices court of pleas and quarter sessions of the county of wake 1200 pounds current money to be paid to the justices for the benefit of the child, hereafter named commited to the to the tuition of the said Harris Gillum 19 Sept 1798. Okay – Harris Gillum (mary’s husband-yes) is the gdn of Duke Shelton, a minor orphan

Marriages NC 1790-1810:

Wake:

  • Elizabeth Flemming to Harbert High 27 Jan 1792  High shows up on Robert’s writ of partition. His sister?
  • Polly Fleming to William Muckleroy 11 Nov 1805 This is Jane’s grandmother
  • David Brasfield to Jeney Flemming 26 Dec 1810 This is Jane
  • Gilly Fleming to Warren Rigsbey 20 Jan 1812 ??
  • Robert Flemming to Matilda Brasfield: 16 Feb 1819 This is Jane’s brother

These are the only marriages listed in Ancestry in Wake until the 2000s.

Granville:

  • Mary Fleming to Thomas Fleming 2 Dec 1783
  • Daniel Fleming to Ann Farrar 5 Jan 1783
  • Alice Fleming to Stephen Bailey 6 Jan 1783
  • Elizabeth Flemming to John Rice 13 Mar 1785
  • Robert Flemming to Polly Dodson 27 Feb 1794 Jane’s grandparents
  • Charles Fleming to Nicholas Stanback 7 Feb 1798 ??
  • Sally Flemming to George Byars
  • William Flemming to Frances Bullock 24 Dec 1810
  • Celia Fleming to Elkana Lyon 31 July 1813
  • John Flemming to Nancy Lyon Granville 3 mar 1835

There are a whole lot more here

US Army listings :

  • Thomas Flemming 1787 NC
  • George 1891
  • Moses 1805

1790: NC census complied and subs for state. None in Orange or Wake.

  • John Sr. Flemming Granville 1784 (2)
  • Peter Granville 1784  (2) 1786 (2)  pg 77  Fed census?  Warren County? This is confusing.
  • Thomas Granville 1784  (2)  1786 (2) 77
  • William Granville 184 (2)  1886 (2) 77
  • Daniel Granville  1786
  • John 1786 Granville, Henderson’s (2) 77
  • John Granville undesignated (2)

There’s a Robert in the index on pg 104 Fed census  2-1-2  Hillsborough District, Wake County

1790 Fed: There are (in Anc search) 36 Flemming heads of household listed in NC.

  • Robert, Wake NC
  • Daniel Chatam
  • John Chatham.
  • There’s a Robert in the index on pg 104  212  Hillborough District, Wake County
  • One in Wake.  Nothing in Orange.  Nothing in Granville.None in Granville.  How odd.
  • Peter, Thomas and William listed in Warren –

1800, search for Wake and adjacents:

  • Robert Flemming HilsB Wake 3 slaves 10 people  3m-10 1 16-25 1 26-44 1f-10 1 26-44 Alphabetical
  • Henry HilB Granville 3 slaves 13 people  3 m-10  1 m 16-25 1 m 26-44  2f-10 2 10-15 1 26-44 near Glovers i14 on i13 we find William Dodson jr? 10100 101  And Charles Dodson 00010 no Females.
  • Samuel Hillbor Orange 10 people 2m-10 1m 16-25 1 26-44 1f-10 1f 10-15 1f 16-25 1f 26-44 Alphabetical
  • Robert Hillsborough, Orange 7 people 1m –10 2 –10-15 1m 16-25 1m 45+ 1f –10 1f 26-44

1820

Charles in Granville, Henderson’s dist

1830 i52/87 (double pages – two images for each wide set of pages)

Robert Flemming in Wake – but I think it’s alphabetical – and if it is, he’s alone. 1m –5 1m 5-9 1m 20-29 (which lines up with his expected birth date)1m 30-39   1f –5 1f 10-14 1 f 20-29.  If he’s 52 in 1850, he should be in his 20s here, so who’s the older guy?  Could be John, I suppose, who I think is the second child in age.

i50 just a few names up Willie Brassfield. (This is David) But I can’t tell if this is alphabetical or not. It’s too weird.

1850: Greene County, Alabama

i145/168   Fam 1409:

  • Robert Fleming 52 farmer NC  (This is Robert, son of Robert Jr. who married Matilda Brassfield. So he was born about 1798, then.  Could have been the 30-39 in 1830)
  • Matilda 51 f NC
  • William 25 Teacher NC
  • Cornelia A 22 NC
  • John R 15  Student of med
  • Mary E 15  ALA.  So they came to Alabama in about 1835.  That’s good to know.
  • Wiley 11
  • Albert

fam 1367   i140/188  

  • Jane D. Brassfield 55  NC (down to Rufus) Came to Al circa 1835?
  • George W. 20
  • Rufus M 19
  • David S 15  AL
  • Rebecca J Harris 15
  • Adlade Harris 13
  • Louisa F Harris 10

 

Also on page: William F Bassfield 30NC md Jane A 23 AL and child,

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=FL&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=3&GScntry=4&GSsr=1561&GRid=23311073&   Matilda’s grave in the Brasfield Cemetery, Green County Alabama born 6 Nov 1799 d 2 aug 1866.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=23311074  Robert’s burial d. 30 Apr 1852. 

Gillium or Gilliam

Collected and substitute census North Carolina: Granville: John 1784, William 1784, John in Raglands Dist 1786 William in Henderson’s 1786, Harris Gillom 1786

Federal: 1790: Granville only one, William Gilliam. 1810: Harbert Gilliam at Granville, William Gilliam Granville

Leslie Gillium Granville.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-21397-9167-60?cc=1911121&wc=M8BK-G3K:185203501,183209202,190822601  George Brassfield Estate:

  • 2. Anderson Clements gdn  to Calvin Brasfield. States that he has commenced suit for recovering the property belonging to his ward against Robert Fleming and David Brasfield exec of George Brasfield has not obtained judgment. This statement explains why he cannot report how much is due his ward. Jan 1833
  • 3.  back of note. Feb 1832. Wake County.  Wow, 7 pages long. Where is the will?  This is just guardian stuff.  And there’s another file for Willie Brasfied, which concerns George’s estate – 2 pages of that.

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/r/a/Richad-L-Brasfield/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0004.html

George Brasfield (b. May 18, 1765, d. December 11, 1822)

George Brasfield (son of David Brasfield) was born May 18, 1765 in Wake Co., N. C., and died December 11, 1822 in Wake Co., N. C.. He married Elizabeth Major on August 23, 1787 in Wake Co., N. C., daughter of William Major.

 Notes for George Brasfield:

Elizabeth Major was the daughter of William major, of Wake Co., N. C., whose will was made November 1, 1787, and proved the Dec. term of the Wake Co., Court, 1787; David Brasfield, Charles Brumfields and Nicholas Majors were witnesses. Elizabeth was head of household in Wake Co. in 1830 which included on males 15 to 20 years, one male 20 to 30, years and one female 50 to 60.

Among the early grants of George Brasfield in Wake Co. are the following;

  •  GRANT NO. 799: 288 acres of Waters of Neuse River adjoining lines of Thomas Burnett and Joseph Brasfield November 16, 1801. Joseph Brasfield, Jesse Brasfield, chain bearers. One corner of property was at junction of Beaver Dam Creek.
  • GRANT NO. 800: 416 acres on waters of Neuse River on both sides, adjoining lands of Peleg Rogers, Sr. At junction of Great Lick Creek and Motry Branch. February 20, 1802. J. Humpries, Surveyor; Joseph Brasfield, Jesse Brasfield, chain bears.
  •  Pumphrets Edwards, a private in the N. C. Continental Line, Revolutionary War, was issued land in Tennessee, February 21, 1821, on Warrant No. 660. Same was transferred to George Brasfield,Esq. June 18, 1821, with David Clements as witness. George Brasfield transferred it to Joseph Lynn October 19, 1821, with Willie Brasfield as witness. (Tenn. Gen. records, Vol. 5, pp 18-22). Betsey Steele, of Hickman Co., Tenn. appointed her trusty friend, George Brassfield of Wake Co., N. C. attorney in fact to collect what was due her in the State of N. C. , October 17, 1821. (Wake Co., Deed Bk. 5, pp 14). George Brasfield is shown as surveyor on a number of records in the N. C. State Land Office, bearing dates around 1820-1821. He made many purchases of State Lands, and Military land warrants.

The Tennessee Land Office Book Z, pp. 686, shows the following;

GRANT NO. 22968: By virtue of Warrant No. 801, dated August 16, 1821, issued by the Secretary of the State of N. C. to the President and Trustees of the University of said State, on account of the military services of John Cook, De cd. for 640 acres, and entered on December 9, 1822, By No. 570 – there is granted by the said State of Tennessee, unto George Brasfield, assignee of the said President & trustees & c, a certain tract or parcel of land containing 640 acres, by survey bearing date April 30, 1824, lying in the 13th. district in ….. Conty, in the seventh range and seventh & eighth Section, on the waters of Cane Creek of reelfoot River, and bounded as follows, to wit: ……Popar & Dogwoods……. corner of John P. & A. Taylor 640 acres entry …. corner of Joseph Frank’s entry…. said Frank’s and Benders corner….. to a cherry tree in the Hurricane …. Williams Car roll, governor of the State of Tenn. hath hereunto set his hand…. at Murfreesboro as of the 4th. day on January….. 1825. Signed, By the Governor, em. Carrol, Daniel Graham, Secretary.

The Tennessee Land Office Book No.8, pp.244 for West Tennessee Land records, shows as following;

Grant No. 5829: By virtue of Entry No. 1204, date February 3, 1823, made in the name of George Brasfield, founded on Military Warrants issued to ……, Survey bearing date April 5, 1823, there is granted by the said State of Tennessee unto George Brasfield a certain tract or parcel of land, containing 2560 acres situated, lying and being in the county of Hardin, 9th. District, Ranges 5 & 6, Sections 3 & 4: …. stake, dogwood and hickory pointers…. N. W. corner of Entry No. 1066 for 1500 acres in the name of John Taylor in the 6th range and 3rd section;…… blackjack…. In witness where of W. B. Campbell, Governor of the State of Tennessee, hath hereunto set his hand …. at Nashville, on the 4th. of December 1851 …. By the Governor, W. B. Campbell, W. B. A. Ramsey, Secretary.

The two actions recorded in the Tennessee Land Office were dated after George Brasfield’s death in 1822 and were apparently made at the stated dates to clear up the estate of George Brasfield, deceased.

Wed. November 12, 1828. Daniel Cook, heir at large of John Cook, deceased, ….vs…..Original Bill. The heirs at law of George Brasfield, deceased. It appearing to the satisfaction of the court that David Brasfield, Ann Brasfield, Ann Off, Robert Fleming and Martha Fleming, his wife , Edney Brasfield, Leonard Brasfield and Calvin Brasfield, who are defendants to the bill, are citizens residing in the State of North Caroline…. (Obion Co., Tenn. Court Minute Books, nos. 1 & 2, 1826-1832 and 1832-1834, pp 67).

Alfred Brasfield, Leonard Brasfield, John C. Brasfield and Nancy Brasfield wife of John C. Brasfield, of Greene Co., Alabama sold to Asa Brasfield, formerly of Greene Co., Alabama and now of McNairy Cos., and one tract in Hickman Co.,known as the Vernon tract, all in Tenn., January 28, 1842. (Hardin Co., Tenn. Deed Bk. G, pp 110). Last Will and Testament of George Brasfield of Wake Co., N. C. (Abstracted from Will Bk. 17, pp. 435).

More About George Brasfield:    Will: November 20, 1822, Wake Co., N.C..

More About George Brasfield and Elizabeth Major:  Marriage Fact: August 17, 1787, John Brasfield as Bondsman (2 36 156).

Single: August 23, 1787, Wake Co., N. C.

http://mountaingenealogy.blogspot.com/2012/03/wdytya-reba-mcentire.html

The Reba McIntire “Who Do You Think You are” thing: (which I don’t believe has much to do with the people I’m researching)
She met wth historian Prof. Phil Otterness. He showed Reba the plans the city founders had drawn up laying out the city. There, at Lot #15 in 1815, she found George Brasfield, just a short distance from the capitol building.
Next Otterness showed her Land Records from 1846-1849, and it indicated that on 21 Nov 1845 George had died. But it also gave a description of the lot he owned, and that a tavern had sat there. So, Reba discovered that not only was he a landowner, but also a business man!
The Tax Records for 1810, showed that in Lick Creek District, George had owned 1,716 acres, he was taxed for 1-W Poll [white males over 21 years of age], and 10 B Poll [slaves both male and female of all ages]. And so George was not only a landowner, but also owned chattel.
They directed Reba to the Granville County, North Carolina courthouse, and historian Prof. Harry Watson, who had been doing some research on the family.  He located a newspaper clipping dated 05 Nov 1820 where George Brasfield described a runaway slave who had called himself Willie Tripp. Brasfield was directing others to attempt to capture Tripp.He also brought out records where George had bought a 26-year old slave, a male, named Davey. There was also two records for slaves sold: Rachel a 20-year old female, with child, and Peter, a 3 year old male. Reba was appalled that her ancestor was in the slave buying and selling trade. (Oh, brother. How unusual for that time and place – not)
It appeared she had now found out all she could about George, and so Watson directed her to the Essex County, Virginia courthouse in Tappahannock, Virginia. Here she met with historian Prof. Warren R. Hofstin, who told Reba that not only did she know that her 4-times great-grandfather was named George, but so was her 6-times great-grandfather. [The elder George having had a son, Thomas, who named his son after his father.] Hofstin showed Reba  record whereby Richard Carver sold to George Brasfield 300 acres of land, for the sum of over 1,000 pounds of tobacco.And so George came to be a landowner.
Next Hofstin handed Reba the Orders for Essex County, 1695-1699. This log holds the court decisions that were made. Here she learned that George had arrived in this country as a 9-year old boy, who was made an indentured servant to one Bernard Gaines. Reba learned the truth that African slaves and indentured servants worked side by side under horrifying conditions at times.
Young George is found in a list of indentured servants, and is listed as George Brasfelld, with 11 years to serve his passage. This would indicate he was actually ten-years of age, rather than 9. A common practice of the time was for sellers to skim a year off the age of indentured children, which would give them more money from the buyers.
Reba noted that many of the children who arrived on the same ship that George arrived on had come from County Cheshire in England. So, off she headed to Chester, England to the Records Office. Here she met with researcher Brett Weston, who had found more information for her.
Looking at the records for Macklesfield, England on the computer, they found George Brasfield [listed in the latin as Georgius] in the 1698 Baptisms. Weston excused himself to get the record. When he returned, he came back with several records. In the Baptisms, they found Georgius as the son of Thomas, and he was christned on 17 Jun 1688. And so they had an approximation of his birth [christenings were held very shortly after birth in those days].
Next, under Marriages, they found a record for Thomas, who had married a woman named Abigail.Burial records for Macklesfield indicated that Abigail had died in 1696, just two years prior to George being sent to America. And Thomas had been buried, also at Macklesfield on 20 Jun 1720.
So Reba headed next to Mackesfield to the church where George had been christened, and where his parents were both buried. Here Reba met with Indenture Researcher James Horn from Williamsburg, Virginia. Horn explained to her that at that time, it was certain Thomas had no money, and men were simply not child caretakers then. George’s opportunities for making something of himself in Macklesfield were slim to none. And so Thomas took the best route he could have in giving George the opportunity to come to America, and become the successful landowner he did.
A small grassy plot of land indicated the poor section of the cemetery. Since these were the poor burials, there were no markers. “There may have been a simple wooden cross at first, but, of course, these have long since fallen away,” Horn explained.

THIS IS NOT THE GEORGE BRASFIED WHO CONNECTS WITH FLEMMINGS AND MAJORs. THE DEATH DATE IS WRONG. We are on Lick Creek, but this is weird and skewed, so I have no idea what’s going on here.

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Nothing for William Major in Wills Inventories Settles 1774-1782 (because it was 1787 – duh)

So in the next one, I 8/273 pgs 9-32-134 Actually, page 275 I 151 Francis Moreland, exec 1791 (old page 136) then old page 32 (173 new I 99)  Will: i87 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/DGS-004772469_00324?cc=1867501&wc=MDRL-9P6:170052901,171068501

William Major’s will:

It begins in the traditional way, then gets down to business:

Item 1: To my daughter Hannah Brasfield, one grey horse and one young sorrel horse, (looking glasses and pots – spelled with two t’s – and other things) with money.

Item 2: Daughter Betsey Brasfield a mare, saddle and bridle, one large sorrel Horse, (these are the important things to my mind) and then assorted kitchen and household items, with a bit of money.

Item 3: Son John my lands on Neve (Nueve?) River, (140 acres or six hundred forty), household stuff. Top of next page nearly unreadable, and unreadable in parts. Ah – that his Plantation be rented out for five years to Richard  Eduded? – anyway, rents, etc. – okay, he has three children. And the part of his father’s estate that will fall to him when his mother dies shall be divided between the children living.

He nominates his trusty friends, Francis Moreland and George Brasfield and Barnet Major to be execs.

Looking for George Brassfield’s will: died 1822. WSI 30-34 – Calvin 468, Caroline 231-368  Major 35-235-406 – AHA!! https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-195-504692-1-23?cc=1867501&wc=MDRL-QM9:170052901,171048802

Wills: 1821-1822 Vol 17 image 231

Item 2: Beloved wife, Elizabeth Brassfield during her life or widowhood, the lamd and plantation where they live. Land on Lick Creek and half the horses, cattle andhogs and 20 choice sheep. Etc. And Squire and his wife Patty, their Children Cherry and Aley? Until Calvin comes of age, also Manuel until Edna become of age or marries. Deesra? A boy, during his wife’s life, and Iobel, a woman.

3rd Item: To my son David andi his heirs all the land and stuff already given to him.

4th to Asa

5th: to Anne Joss? Goss? The property in her possession.

6th: to son Willie

7th: to Matilda all the land already in her possession.

8. My daughter Caty Burton

9. My son John M

10. My son Alfred.

11. My son Leonard

12. my daughter Edna Brassfield

13.  my son, Calvin – who sounds like the baby.

He appoints John M. Brasfield, David Brassfield and Robert Flemming as execs.

20 day of November 1822.

Wit Jacob Bledsoe and Joseph Brasfield – proved.

There is a great deal of community info in here – land descriptions, neighbor names, daughter-married names.

 

About George Brasfield’s son Leonard and his wife, Bethana. It seems as though she was Bethana Tillison, who married Noah Vines in Jefferson County, Alabama, 18 September 1838.  I’m starting from a Family Search/Tree entry that names her Bethana Tillotson Vines. And my father’s sketchy info that he married a Bethenia in Tennessee. And then, in a Family Search search of records, I found death record for two children, Soloman Brasfield and William Henry Brasfield, both of whom are listed in the

1850 census of Five Mile, Jefferson, Alabama that lists, in Elyton,

  • Leonard Brasfield 42 (b 1808) NC
  • Bethana 25 Tenn
  • Joshua 10  all children Alabama
  • William H 5
  • Matilda 3
  • Alfred J 0

I find the same family in 1860 and 1870. In the latter, L and “Parthena” are 50.

In their son, Soloman’s death record, she is called Tillison. (death date 12 Mar 1923)

And there is another Brasfield head of household listed above him in 1850, who is 35 years old from NC

FOUND IT: 1850, 5 mile, Jefferson –

  • John C. Brasfield (that’s what I thought it was) 35 NC
  • Nancy H. Brasfield 31 AL
  • With children

J.C. Brassfield md. Mainima Travis 23 Dec 1856 Jefferson, Alabama. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=BRA&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=27&GScntry=4&GSsr=5841&GRid=33625063& Her find-a-grave.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=BRA&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=27&GScntry=4&GSsr=5801&GRid=33625091& John C.’s find-a-grave. Birth, July 14, 1814 death 1 Feb 1883  Bethlehem Cemetery Smithville Monroe County, Mississippi, USA.

Everybody says his first wife was Nancy Hancock – and sure enough, in 1850, his wife’s name is Nancy.  There is a find a grave for her, but there shouldn’t be – the burial is unknown and there is evidently no headstone that verifies dates. I can’t find a marriage record.  She’s Nancy H in 1850

 

Listed as Calvin in his father’s will and in the 1840 census.

 

I find the same family in 1860 and 1870. In the latter, L and “Parthena” are 50.

In their son, Soloman’s death record, she is called Tillison. (death date 12 Mar 1923)

 

So, it looks like Bethana Tillison married Noah Vines and he didn’t live very long. The oldest child in the family is 10, born about 1840. He’s five years older than the next child, so it’s possible that Joshua was Noah’s child. Then she married Leonard – but how they met, where they married, I have no idea. I haven’t been able to find any marriage record for them.  And I just found a 1860 census listing for Joshua Vines in Flat Creek, Jefferson, Alabama, 20.  Elyton. So he was, indeed Noah’s. And that explains the FS submission.

Joshua married Margaret Keziah —–, called Kissy.  His census ages indicate consistently a birth about 1840.

For David Brassfield

Marriages: Ancestry search, no year filter at all.

North Carolina:

  • David Brasfield to Mary Gilliam 22 May 1805 Wake (bonds Dickey Skelton, Jacob Johnson)  to Jeney Fleming 16 Dec 1810 Wake
  • George Brasfield (international and US collection) 1736 Elizabeth in North Carolina

Census:  no filters. Searching the name only.

  • 1790: David Brasfield Wake, North Carolina. i17/18 212 I forget the categories. No familiar names to me, not even on the page preceding. His name was top of first column.
  • 1810: one in Kentucky.
  • 1830: Wake, and that one is David Willie, father of David Sydney.

Will abstracts of 1771 George Brassfield, Elizabeth (wife): Caleb, Nancy, Abigail Malone, Elizabeth Knott and Fanny Bond, daughters.  No county given. Ancestry database.

David Brasfield in U.S. Census Reconstructed Records 1660-1820 – North Carolina. Says Wake, Orange and Granville Counties, which is weird. Orange and Wake both came out of Granville. 1780 Names on a petition, 24 September 1782 to the Gen. Assembly from inhabitants of Wake Co and part of Granville and Orange, seeking approval for Woodrow or Woodson Daniel and Thomas Tomlinson of Wake.

General Ancestry search of surname with no other filters:

1790 – nine results: Caleb Brasfield Granville, NC (this is the kid generally attached to George Brasfield and I think an unidentified Elizabeth, not ours).  There is also an Elijah Brasfield in wake, and an Elizabeth in Wake.  Oh, and a George who would be ours.  And Joseph, who is generally said to be a son of Dvid Brasfield who is generally held to be the brother of our George, and who is mentioned in his will.

There is a George in Granville.  Jno is in Burke.  And there’s a William in Wake.

A Thomas in Wilkes in 1793.

1800: Willie Brasfield in Wake (The Hillsborough means nothing – there are six counties in that district – a militilia district very annoying) Also a George, Jesse, John, Joseph all in wake. And one George in Granville.  This is not helping.

1810: there’s a Syvany in Ganville – betcha she’s the widow of George from there.

You have to remember there is NO CENSUS in Wake for 1810-20.

So where do these researchers come up with the assurance that David lived past 1821?

A tour through the Wills index 1771-1934 vol A https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1940-855838-1-0?cc=1867501&wc=MDRL-7NL:170052901,171018201 image 9

  • William Brassfield: Synthia, Middy, Lucky or Suckey,  1796 book 3 271
  • Elijah Brassfield Rebekkah 1790  book 3 216
  • John Brassfield – Wiat, Elijah, William Jesse, Elizabeth, Susannah 1788 Book 2 p66
  • Joshua Brasfield? Richard Massy 1812 book 10
  • Abe Brassfield in John B Shaw 1816 book 12 269
  • George Brassfield – David, Asa, Willie (NOT WYLIE), Matilda, John M, Alfred, Leonard, Calvin, Anne Goss 1823 book 17 pg 435
  • Hannah Brassfield Caroline James? 1841 book 24 pg 501 daughter of.
  • John Brassfield – Sarah 1844 b 25 458. Moyia, george, William , Jesse, Sibert (4 grandsons? Or 5.
  • Sarah Brassfield – Minnie, Amanda, Reuben, Roena, Rufus, Nancy – 1857 Book 30 pg 299

Index A-E typed same info.

1804-1934 Vol A – Divisions of land.

Major Brassfield 1835 Book 23  486

Wills index Bo A-L

John Brasfield – Elizabeth 1788 book red 2 pg 206 file 80

Wills, Inv, Set 1783-1794 vol2 Brassfield John  pg 66

Estate of Joseph 1826 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21397-9650-63?cc=1911121&wc=M8BK-268:185203501,183209202,190825301

He had a family of 4 or 5. John Hays Administered (no will?). Woman petitioning claiming that she is entitled to a year’s support for herself and fam.  Ah – spine – Hannah Brasfield, widow . Okay – this is Hannah Major, sister in law to George?

John K? gdn to Milley and Caroline Brassfield. 1829  John K Moore.  I8: receipt: I, Melesa Brassfield, being over the age of 21 have received from John K Moore my guardian in full  my part of the estate of Joseph Brasfeld, dec. Being his daughter  Feb 1831.  i12 – this is interesting. We have proceeded to divide the estate of Joseph Brasfield dec between Hanna, Meleasa and Cairlen? Brasfield and have made the allowances to John Hayes and Leroy and Meleasa Strayhorn according to order to us directed, 20 Dec 1830 Nath Warren Henry warren, Payton High.

Willie Brasfield 1832 only two pages: Sherriff o Fayette County, tax on land paid for year 1831 tract of land in the name of Willie Brasfield and for which tract the excs of George Brassfield has a clam. 640 acres. Jan 1832  Looks like Willie is deceased by then.  Yes. Simpson Shaw admin of Willie Brasfield d. This note signed by David Brasfield ad Robert Fleming Exes of George Brasfield.

John Brassfield: Sarah Brasfield, widow of the late John Brasfield dec. 1844. The petition of Sarah Brasfield against Albert Brasfield exe of John Brasfield Dec.  Says that some time during the present year the late John Brasfield of said county died , first making a will and publishing it. . Albert qualified as exec 

Major Brassfield 1824 for board of Salley Bras, Polley, John , Joseph, Sentine?

i24:  The petition of Sarah M Brasfield and William T Ligon and his wife Mary E. against Mathew Lynn and John and Joseph and Lienhiu Brassfiled, infants by their gdn Mat Lyon, who was once their gdn and with them their brothers and sister, John , Joseph and Luntine Brassfield. Or Suntine (really looks like the rest of his “L”s). Sarah M is of full age.  Wm L Ligon and Mary E have intermarried about 26 Aug 1831, and your petitioners wand a division of property . John M Flemming signs this with others.

Alvin Yearby and his wife Sarah and his wife Mary against Leontine Brasfeild and John, infants under 21. Statement that about 12 or 14 years ago, Major Brasfield died intestate leaving a widow Aley who  has since married Mat? Lynn Sr. of said the following children his heirs at love: your petitioner Sarah who has  intermarried with Alvin Yearby, your petitioner Mary md William S. Ligon and the defendants – yo. Major Brasfield was, at his death, possessed, fee simple of a tract of and in Wake County on both sides of the Neuse River adjoining R. Smith, John Adams  1000 acres

i32 The answer of Leontine? John and Joseph Brassfield defendants by gdn Mat Lyon Sr. to the petition of Alivin Yeaby and wife

i34 – here it’s clearly Leontine i36: Salley, Polly, John, Joseph and Leantine.  Next report 1831

i40 Matthew Lynn i45 1837?  Looks like Mathew was made gdn in 1834 i.50 Aley Brasfield widow of Major Brasfield dec. This one is 1822. Feels like a first report. i53. Plat and description of land. 190 acres. 1835-Jan 3., the appraisal of the land pursuant to division.  By then, Leintine is Leintine Penny. Sally  – is it Yearby or Zearby? Mary Legen? Ligen?

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