Benners Vail and Mary Adelaide Brasfield/Brassfield – going both upstream and down.
(The second section of these notes is a sort of narrative – I have summarized each set of Ellen H and Benners the best I can. This top part is a timeline with every family’s events. The bottom is each character with a personal time line. You can’t tell one Benner or Ellen from the other without help, believe me.)
Well- here’s a hint about the name origin: http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?Benners::vail::1685.html “Mary Benners b. abt 1720 d. abt 1784 – wife of Edward Vail b1717-d. 1777.”
Benners Vail 1800 Craven North Carolina 1m 16-25
Benners W. Vail 1830 Wayne, North Carolina. 1m –5 1m 20-29 1f –5 1f 20-29
Benners W. Vail: 1840 Boswells District, Wayne, North Carolina.
1 m 5-9 1m 10—14 1 m 10-19 1f 5-9 1f 10-14 1f 30-39
North Carolina Marriage index : Benners Vail Elizabeth Lente 23 Feb 1804 Craven North Carolina
North Carolina Marriage index: Benners Vail md. Frances Mary Nash 20 March 1802 in Craven NC
Benners Vail – marries Isabella P Dufphey 25 Jan 1848 Greene, Alabama (WHAT????)——–
1831, 18 July, William McAlpin marries Ann Watson in Greene, Alabama
1850: Greene, Alabama
- William McAlpin 55 GA
- Nancy 40 SC
- Elizabeth 15 ALà and down.
- William A 11
- John W. McAlpin who is 5 yrs old. (The W is for Watson)
- George H
1860: The same family still in Forkland, and the boy’s age is 14
- Wm. McAlpin 55 GA
- Ann SC 50
- Wm A 21 AL
- M?B 18 F
- J. W. 14
- Next door: J.E. Anderson (John Watson’s nephew? Is an Anderson who becomes Chief Justice of the state court)
- 1850: Mobile, Mobile Alabama
- W.C. Easton 44 Maryland
- Mary L Easton 37 Dist of Columbia
- Thomas S. Easton 18 medical student also Dist of Col
- Edwin W 10 Al
- Ellen H 3 AL
Alabama http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=FS1ALMarriages&h=2157503&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=7163
John W. McAlpine married 11 Nov 1869 in Mobile, Alabama, Ellen H Easton FHL film 1294426 v 23-25
1870 Greensboro, Hale, Alabama fam 516
- with H C Childrup 37 Sheriff and family
- * Benners Vail 12 Alabama (1858)
1870: Forkland, Greene, AL
- J.W. McAlpine 25
- E.H. McAlpine 22
- M.E. 1/12 female born in May.
- 1880 Census, Mobile, Mobile Alabama i68/72 fam 681
- With Theodore H Cox
- * Benners Vail 22 Clerk in Store Al Al Al (1858)
1880: Forkland, Greene
- McAlpine, J.W. 34 Farmer Al Ga. SC
- E H 32 wife AL MD VA
- J.W. 8 son
- E.H. 4 dtr born about 1876
Ellen Mcalpine (maiden name) married 24 Jan 1894 in Green to J.D. Dr. Henagan FHL film 1290854
There is, in 1880 in Jones’ Bluff, Sumter, this family:
- Charles S. Henagan 50
- Ann 80
- With children including
- James D. Henagan who is 13 Alabama South Carolina Alabama
Marriage Record: * Brenners Vail 10 Feb 1892 Greene, Alabama married Addie M.
There was also an Isabella R. Vail married to Benjamin C 6 April 1863 in Greene.
There was also an Isiah Vail 12 Jan 1878 to Sally in Green, Al
And a Jim Vail on Christmas 1886. Same family?
Mary Adelade Brasfield m. 14 Jun 1887 Greene, Alabama to Charles H. (turns out to be Charles H Beville) So you have to find each party of a marriage to find the last names with this stupid database.
Addie M. Beville married Benners 10 Feb 1892.
Census:
1900: Forkland, Greene, Alabama
- * Benners Vail 43 b. Oct 1856
- Addie Vail 35 married 8 years Feb 1865
- ** Beuners B Vail 7 Nov 1892 (this is corrected to Benners B) The B is Brasfield
- Ira D Vail 4 (Jan 1896)
1900: Jones’ Bluff, Sumter, Alabama
- Ellen H Henagan 28 in Jones’s Bluff, Sumter, Al milliner (b. 1872)
- Ellen H Henagan 4 (b. 1896)
Complications: the mother of Ellen Hope Henagan was Ellen Hope, Mrs. Henagan, married 10 June 1906 in Greene, Alabama, Joseph Wiley Rucker FHL film 1290854
1910: Forkland, Greene, Alabama
- * Benners Vail 52 widowed (b. 1858)
- ** Benners 17 (b. 1893)
- Ira D Vail 14 (b. 1896)
1910, Forkland, Greene, Al
- Joseph Rucker, head M2 (twice) 3 years present marriage 45 Missouri, KY VA
- Ellen 33, M2 (twice) 3 years this one.
- Ellen H Henagan dtr 14 S ALà (b. 1896)
- Joe Rucker son11
- Elizabeth McAlpine sister in law 27
Marriage Record: ** Benners B married Ellen Hope 31 July 1912 Actually, this is Benners Brasfield Vail marrying Ellen Hope Henagan, daughter of Mrs. Ellen Hope Henagan.
Also: Alabama Select Marriages: Benners Brasfield Vail md. 31 July 1912 in Greene, Alabama to Ellen Hope Henegan FHL: 1290854 Item 2, p37
1920: Forkland, Greene Alabama
- ** Benners W Vail 27 (b. 1893) This is Brenners B – the census initial is indeterminate. Could be “B”
- Ellen H Vail 24 (b. 1896)
- *** Benners B Vail 7 (b. 1913)
- Mary E 4 (b. 1916)
- Ellen R. Vail 2 (b. 1918)
Ancient Post Card: “To Uncle Fleming and Aunt Maggie, from Ellen R Vail, 3 yrs, Dec 26 1920. We will move to El Paso, Tex. In February. B’s back in the army stationed at El Paso. Love for all – Hope.”
In 1920, Ellen H Henagar (md. Name) was 43, married to Joseph W. Rucker 54, and had living with her in the house Ellen Hope 71 (b. 1849) and Elizabeth Hope 36.
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=TexasConfederatePensions&h=2442544&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=7667 A form for Confederate Pension, for John W McAlpin, application 7 Nov 1927 in Winston. Spouse: Ellen H McAlpine – married 11 Nov 1869 in Mobile, Alabama. He died 20 March 1908 in Watsonia Alabama. This is a widow’s application.: the text
Widow’s full name: Ellen Hope McAlpine. Now living with Mrs. J.W. Rucker (daughter). Widow born in Mobile, Mobile, Al on Oct 23 1849. Father: William Cooper Easton, who is recently dec – died about 1875 in New York. Husband’s name: John W. McAlpine. Married Mobile aL nov 11 1869. He died Mar 20 1908 at Watsonia, AL. Widow lived in Chambers? Co, about 1925 and Winston 3 years Always lived in Alabama. Husband enlisted in Conf army Oct 20, 1863 in the Cavalry as a private. He was captured in Citronelle, AL. HE was paroled at Gainesville, Ala, May 13, 1865. She signs it Ellen Hope McAlpine.. There is a letter addressed to her from the Supreme Court of Alabama from John someone with Love to all. It’s addressed to “Hope.” Another letter states that John McAlpine was not borne as John W. McAlpine. Ellen moves to Haleysville, Winston, Co. AL. Another letter is from the Rev. Joseph W. Tucker, Haleyville, Alabama. He is evidently the pastor of the First Baptist Church in that place. He is Hope’s son in law.
Hope Rucker also writes a letter in which she refers to her father’s nephew, Chief Justice John C. Anderson. She says, My father’s son, John W. McAlpine of Los Angeles California
In another form, Hope Easton McAlpine reports that her husband was concussed of the brain in the war, which led to problems and lists her children: John W. McApline, Lawyer has lost everything? Rev. J.W. Rucker, wife of Baptist minister, and Elizabeth McAlpine who is only able to take care of herself. I live with my daughter and her husband now in LaFayette, Al (1823)
Application for military headstone. Gives much the same info about his service. Also, he was Protestant. And his full name was John Watson McAlpine. Application in Eutaw, Al. Ellen Hope Grover, Granddaughter of John Watson McAlpine is the applicant, 2-25- 1968.
1930: Haleyville, Winston, Al
- Joseph W. Rucker 65
- Ellen H 53 (b. 1877)
- Ellen Mc Alphinia 80
- Bettie Mc Alphinia 47
- Milton E Grover 40
- Ellen Grover 33
- *** Ben B Grover 16 – this is Benners Brasfield Vail, I’m thinking. He was 7 in 1820
- Neel R Grover 12 – and this is the age Ellen R Vail would be. Evidently, Mary didn’t live.
There is an obituary in the Birmingham News, Late Final edition pg 14, date Aug 15 1963 for Mrs. Ellen H.. Vail Grover. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=GRO&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=3&GScntry=4&GSsr=1161&GRid=93068856&
Ellen H Grover, b. 9 Feb 1896 Epes, Sumter County Al, died 12 Aug 1963 buried Forest Hill Cemetery, Jeff County, section 11.
Also:
Ellen Hope Grover (Henagan) b. about 1896 d. 12 Aug 1963 in Anniston, Calhoun AL, father: James Henagan, mother: Ellen Hope. FHL flim 1909056 (Al death and burials index)
1930: Haleyville, Winston, Al
1930: Fort Riley, Geary, Kansas
- ** Benners B Vail 37 (b. 1893)
- Merle H 33
- William H 6
- Ira D 4 11/12
1932: Burial of Ellen Hope Easton. Wife of John W. McAlpine, buried Mesopotamia Cemetery in Eutaw, Greene County Ala.
Also interred there: Ellen Hope McAlpine b Dec 17, 1877 d. July 17 1886 Stone says, Daughter of S.D. and M.R. McAlpine, born in Eutaw, Al Died at Burton’s hill.
Ellen Hope Easton McAlpine b. 31 Oct 1849 and d 21 Oct 1932 at Haleyville, Winston, Al 82 years old father Wm. Cooper Easton. Mother: Mary Smoot. FHL film 1908503
1850 census of Mobile, Mobile, A: fam 1772:
- W.C. Easton 44 attny at law Maryland
- Mary L 37 Dist of Columbia
- Thomas L 18 med student Dist Col
- Edwin W 10 Al
- Ellen H 3 Al
1860 Mobile
- William C Easton 53 lawyer
- Mary S 47
- Edwin W 20
- Ellen H 12
- (Thomas’ family next door)
Ellen McAlpine Rucker b 5 Jun 1876 d 8 Feb 1938 in Birmingham, Jefferson County, Al. Father: John W. McAlpine, Ellen Easton.
But again: Ellen Hope Mrs. Henegan married Joseph Wiley Rucker in Green in 1906
1940: Alabama, Montgomery, Montgomery
- ** Vail, Benners B. 47 AL. Ft. Brown, Camerson, Texas
- Merle H 43 Penn Ft. Brown Camerson Texas
- William H. 16 Canal Zone
- Ira D. 15 Canal Zone
Merle Hoffecker Vail d. 3 Aug 1989 El Paso, Texas, US
Merle H Vail Retired US Army b. 26 Jun 1896 d. 3 Aug 1989, Wife of Vail, Benners Brasfield. Ft. Bliss National Cemetery Sec A Site 112
Benners Brasfield Vail born 3 Nov 1892 died at 68 on 31 May 1961 in El Paso, El Paso County, Tex.
1900 census El Paso Ward 3, El Paso, Texas
- Simon Hofficker 31 Sept 1868 Penn Penn à
- Cora 31 Oct 1868 same
- Merrel Hofficker 3 born June 1896 Pennsylvania
1940: There’s an Ellen Vail in Lee, Auburn, Al who is 22 (b. 1918) Single Alabama, Birmingham, Jeff, Ala. She operated some machine -= renting a home with 2 lodgers.
There’s a SS Death index record for Ellen V. Pace, last lived in Anniston, Calhoun, Al b. 26 Dec 1917 (the same date on the post card), died 20 Oct 2000.
Jan 1959 Benners Vail the 3rd married in Shelby Alabama
Vail Narratives:
(I have found Benners before these):
Well- here’s a hint about the name origin: http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?Benners::vail::1685.html :“Have Mary Benners b abt 1720 d. abt 1784 wife of Edward Vail b1717-d. 1777.”
- Benners Vail 1800 Craven North Carolina 1m 16-25
- Benners W. Vail 1830 Wayne, North Carolina. 1m –5 1m 20-29 1f –5 1f 20-29
- Benners W. Vail: 1840 Boswells District, Wayne, North Carolina.
- 1 m 5-9 1m 10—14 1 m 10-19 1f 5-9 1f 10-14 1f 30-39
North Carolina Marriage index : Benners Vail Elizabeth Lente 23 Feb 1804 Craven North Carolina
North Carolina Marriage index: Benners Vail md. Frances Mary Nash 20 March 1802 in Craven NC
Benners Vail – marries Isabella P Dufphey 25 Jan 1848 Greene, Alabama (WHAT????)
Benners I: (He is only “1” because he is the first in this particular section of time. I think he was probably the son of a Brenners) Born – according to the 19100 census – in October 1856, But more likely 1858. He doesn’t appear with family in the census that I can find.
1870 Greensboro, Hale, Alabama fam 516
- with H C Childrup 37 Sheriff and family
- * Benners Vail 12 Alabama (1858)
1880 Census, Mobile, Mobile Alabama i68/72 fam 681
- With Theodore H Cox
- * Benners Vail 22 Clerk in Store Al Al Al (1858)
Marriage Record: * Brenners Vail 10 Feb 1892 Greene, Alabama married Addie M.
- There was also an Isabella R. Vail married to Benjamin C 6 April 1863 in Greene.
- There was also an Isiah Vail 12 Jan 1878 to Sally in Green, Al
- And a Jim Vail on Christmas 1886. Same family?
Mary Adelade Brasfield m. 14 Jun 1887 Greene, Alabama to Charles H. (turns out to be Charles H Beville) So you have to find each party of a marriage to find the last names with this stupid database.
Addie M. Beville married Benners 10 Feb 1892.
1900: Forkland, Greene, Alabama
- * Benners Vail 43 b. Oct 1856
- Addie Vail 35 married 8 years Feb 1865
- ** Beuners B Vail 7 Nov 1892 (this is corrected to Benners B) The B is Brasfield
- Ira D Vail 4 (Jan 1896) (My father’s source on his name: Source: “Brasfield/Brassfield Genealogies” by McAllister He married Belle Anthony, of Hurtsboro, Ala. They lived in Armstrong, Ala., 1943 and had a large plantation and dairy there. They had 4 children as listed on page 32 of the source.
http://newspaperarchive.com/us/alabama/anniston/anniston-star/1952/06-23/page-5 pg 5 Anniston Alabama Monday June 23, 1952 – Mr. And Mrs. Joseph C Braidnax and Miss Ann Broadmax attended the funeral of the late Ira D. Vail in Armstrong yesterday.
1910: Forkland, Greene, Alabama
- * Benners Vail 52 widowed (b. 1858)
- ** Benners 17 (b. 1893)
- Ira D Vail 14 (b. 1896)
Benners II: Benners Brasfield Vail born November 1892
1900: Forkland, Greene, Alabama
- * Benners Vail 43 b. Oct 1856
- Addie Vail 35 married 8 years Feb 1865
- ** Beuners B Vail 7 Nov 1892 (this is corrected to Benners B) The B is Brasfield
- Ira D Vail 4 (Jan 1896)
1910: Forkland, Greene, Alabama
- * Benners Vail 52 widowed (b. 1858)
- ** Benners 17 (b. 1893)
- Ira D Vail 14 (b. 1896)
Marriage Record:** Brenners B married Ellen Hope 31 July 1912 Actually, this is Brenners Brasfield Vail marrying Ellen Hope Henagan, daughter of Mrs. Ellen Hope (McAlpine) Henagan.
Also:
Alabama Select Marriages: Benners Brasfield Vail md. 31 July 1912 in Greene, Alabama to Ellen Hope Henegan FHL: 1290854 Item 2, p37
1920: Forkland, Greene Alabama
- ** Benners W Vail 27 (b. 1893) This is Brenners B – the census initial is indeterminate. Could be “B”
- Ellen H Vail 24 (b. 1896)
- *** Benners B Vail 7 (b. 1913)
- Mary E 4 (b. 1916)
-
Ellen R. Vail 2 (b. 1918)
Post Card I found in my mom’s material: “To Uncle Fleming and Aunt Maggie, from Ellen R Vail, 3 yrs, Dec 26 1920. We will move to El Paso, Tex. In February. B’s back in the army stationed at El Paso. Love for all – Hope.”
1930: Fort Riley, Geary, Kansas
- ** Brenners B Vail 37 (b. 1893)
- Merle H 33
- William H 6
- Ira D 4 11/12
1940: Alabama, Montgomery, Montgomery
- ** Vail, Benners B. 47 AL. Ft. Brown, Camerson, Texas
- Merle H 43 Penn Ft. Brown Camerson Texas
- William H. 16 Canal Zone
- Ira D. 15 Canal Zone
Merle Hoffecker Vail d. 3 Aug 1989 El Paso, Texas, US
Merle H Vail Retired US Army b. 26 Jun 1896 d. 3 Aug 1989, Wife of Vail, Benners Brasfield. Ft. Bliss National Cemeetry Sec A Site 112
Benners Brasfield Vail born 3 Nov 1892 died at 68 on 31 May 1961 in El Paso, El Paso County, Tex.
1900 census El Paso Ward 3, El Paso, Texas
- Simon Hofficker 31 Sept 1868 Penn Penn à
- Cora 31 Oct 1868 same
- Merrel Hofficker 3 born June 1896 Pennsylvania
Benners III: born 1913
1920: Forkland, Greene Alabama
- ** Benners W Vail 27 (b. 1893) This is Brenners B – the census initial is indeterminate. Could be “B”
- Ellen H Vail 24 (b. 1896)
- *** Benners B Vail 7 (b. 1913)
- Mary E 4 (b. 1916)
- Ellen R. Vail 2 (b. 1918)
1930: Haleyville, Winston, Al
- Joseph W. Rucker 65
- Ellen H 53 (b. 1877)
- Ellen Mc Alphinia 80
- Bettie Mc Alphinia 47
- Milton E Grover 40
- Ellen Grover 33
- *** Ben B Grover 16 – this is Benners Brasfield Vail, I’m thinking. He was 7 in 1820
- Neel R Grover 12 – and this is the age Ellen R Vail would be. Evidently, Mary didn’t live.
Ellen Hope I: Ellen Hope Easton (the first Ellen Hope) md. John Watson McAlpine b.about 1847
1850 census of Mobile, Mobile, A: fam 1772:
- W.C. Easton 44 attny at law Maryland
- Mary L 37 Dist of Columbia
- Thomas L 18 med student Dist Col
- Edwin W 10 Al
- Ellen H 3 Al
1860 Mobile
- William C Easton 53 lawyer
- Mary S 47
- Edwin W 20
- Ellen H 12
- (Thomas’ family next door)
1850: There is a William McAlpin 55 AL in Greene County, Al with family including John W. McAlpin who is 5 yrs old.
1860: The same family still in Forkland, and the boy’s age is 14
1850: Mobile, Mobile Alabama
- W.C. Easton 44 Maryland
- Mary L Easton 37 Dist of Columbia
- Thomas S. Easton 18 medical student also Dist of Col
- Edwin W 10 Al
- Ellen H 3 AL
Alabama http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=FS1ALMarriages&h=2157503&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=7163
John W. McAlpine married 11 Nov 1869 in Mobile, Alabama, Ellen H Easton FHL film 1294426 v 23-25
1870: Forkland, Greene, AL
- J.W. McAlpine 25
- E.H. McAlpine 22
- M.E. 1/12 female born in May.
1880: Forkland, Greene
- McAlpine, J.W. 34 Farmer Al Ga. SC
- E H 32 wife AL MD VA
- J.W. 8 son
- E.H. 4 dtr born about 1876
1910, Forkland, Greene, Al
- Joseph Rucker, head M2 (twice) 3 years present marriage 45 Missouri, KY VA
- Ellen 33, M2 (twice) 3 years this one.
- Ellen H Hengagan dtr 14 S ALà (b. 1896)
- Joe Rucker son 11
- Elizabeth McAlpine sister in law 27
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=TexasConfederatePensions&h=2442544&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=7667 A form for Confederate Pension, for John W McAlpin, application 7 Nov 1927 in Winston. Spouse: Ellen H McAlpine – married 11 Nov 1869 in Mobile, Alabama. He died 20 March 1908 in Watsonia Alabama. This is a widow’s application.: the text
Widow’s full name: Ellen Hope McAlpine. Now living with Mrs. J.W. Rucker (daughter). Widow born in Mobile, Mobile, Al on Oct 23 1849. Father: William Cooper Easton, who is recently dec – died about 1875 in New York. Husband’s name: John W. McAlpine. Married Mobile aL nov 11 1869. He died Mar 20 1908 at Watsonia, AL. Widow lived in Chambers? Co, about 1925 and Winston 3 years Always lived in Alabama. Husband enlisted in Conf army Oct 20, 1863 in the Cavalry as a private. He was captured in Citronelle, AL. HE was paroled at Gainesville, Ala, May 13, 1865. She signs it Ellen Hope McAlpine.. There is a letter addressed to her from the Supreme Court of Alabama from John someone with Love to all. It’s addressed to “Hope.” Another letter states that John McAlpine was not borne as John W. McAlpine. Ellen moves to Haleysville, Winston, Co. AL. Another letter is from the Rev. Joseph W. Tucker, Haleyville, Alabama. He is evidently the pastor of the First Baptist Church in that place. He is Hope’s son in law.
Hope Rucker also writes a letter in which she refers to her father’s nephew, Chief Justice John C. Anderson. She says, My father’s son, John W. McAlpine of Los Angeles California
In another form, Hope Easton McAlpine reports that her husband was concussed of the brain in the war, which led to problems and lists her children: John W. McAlpine, Lawyer has lost everything? Ellen H. wife of Rev J.W. Rucker, Baptist minister, and Elizabeth McAlpine who is only able to take care of herself. I live with my daughter and her husband now in LaFayette, Al (1823)
Application for military headstone. Gives much the same info about his service. Also, he was Protestant. And his ful name was John Watson McAlpine. Application in Eutaw, Al. Ellen Hope Grover, Granddaughter of John Watson McAlpine is the applicant, 2-25- 1968.
1930: Haleyville, Winston, Al
- Joseph W. Rucker 65
- Ellen H 53 (b. 1877)
- Ellen Mc Alphinia 80
- Bettie Mc Alphinia 47
- Milton E Grover 40
- Ellen Grover 33
- *** Ben B Grover 16 – this is Benners Brasfield Vail, I’m thinking. He was 7 in 1820
- Neel R Grover 12 – and this is the age Ellen R Vail would be. Evidently, Mary didn’t live.
1932: Burial of Ellen Hope Easton. Wife of John W. McAlpine, buried Mesopotamia Cemetery in Eutaw, Greene County Ala.
Also interred there: Ellen Hope McAlpine (not the line I am working on) b Dec 17, 1877 d. July 17 1886 Stone says, Daughter of S.D. and M.R. McAlpine, born in Eutaw, Al Died at Burton’s hill.
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=FSAlabamaDeath&h=704393&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=70507 : Ellen Hope Easton McAlpine b. 31 Oct 1849 and d 21 Oct 1932 at Haleyville, Winston, Al 82 years old father Wm. Cooper Easton. Mother: Mary Smoot. FHL film 1908503
Ellen Hope II: Born about 1876
See Ellen I for info on John Watson McAlpine’s military pension and headstone applications. They identify her as his daughter.
1850: There is a William McAlpin 55 AL in Greene County, Al with family including John W. McAlpin who is 5 yrs old.
1860: The same family still in Forkland, and the boy’s age is 14
1850: Mobile, Mobile Alabama
- W.C. Easton 44 Maryland
- Mary L Easton 37 Dist of Columbia
- Thomas S. Easton 18 medical student also Dist of Col
- Edwin W 10 Al
- Ellen H 3 AL
Alabama http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=FS1ALMarriages&h=2157503&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=7163
John W. McAlpine married 11 Nov 1869 in Mobile, Alabama, Ellen H Easton FHL film 1294426 v 23-25
1880: Forkland, Greene
- McAlpine, J.W. 34 Farmer
- E H 32 wife (b. 1848) – according to Ellen Hope Henagan Rucker’s death record, her mother was Ellen Easton. And other records suggest she was Ellen Hope Easton.
- J.W. 8 son
- E.H. 4 dtr (b. about 1876)
There is an Ellen Mcalpine married 24 Jan 1894 in Green to J.D. Dr. Henagan FHL film 1290854
If this Ellen is E.H. the daughter in the family of J.H. and E.H. his wife above, she’d have been 18 at the time of this marriage. J.D. Henagon evidently does not live beyond the century as he does not appear in the census outside of the family that might have been his:
There is, in 1880 in Jones’ Bluff, Sumter, this family:
- Charles S. Henagan 50 South Carolina widower
- Ann 80 (mother) South Carolina
- Julia A. 52 sister teaching school
- Effie M ? sister teaching school SC
- Lowndes E 21 Nephew SC
- Malcom I 16 niece SC
- James D. M 13 Son AL
- William B 12 son AL
- Celestine? M Ferrell sister in law 40 SC
–This would be an interesting family to research. Darby, evidently, Charles’’ brother, is on pg 32 and they are on image, actually, 34. Darby was a physician and in 1870, he had the mother and older sisters living with him. He is married in 1880, and I guess that made things uncomfortable – all those women in the household, so here they are with Charles, who I can’t find in 1870 – when his sons would have been 2 and 3 – both born in Alabama.
I can’t find Charles anywhere – using the census. I don’t know where he was in 1870, when James was 3.
James D. Henagan who is 13 Alabama South Carolina Alabama
Sumter and Greene share a border, and I have other families that lived on either side.
1900: in Jones’s Bluff, Sumter, Al
- Ellen H Henagan 28 milliner (b. 1872) Henagan here is a married name.
- Ellen H Henagan 4 (b. 1896) Henagan here is a maiden name.
Ellen Hope, Mrs. Henegan, married 10 June 1906 in Greene, Alabama, Joseph Wiley Rucker FHL film 1290854
1910, Forkland, Greene, Al
- Joseph Rucker, head M2 (twice) 3 years present marriage 45 Missouri, KY VA
- Ellen 33, M2 (twice) 3 years this marriage. (b. 1877)
- Ellen H Hengagan dtr 14 S ALà (b. 1896)
- Joe Rucker son 11 (child of Joseph’s first marriage)
- Elizabeth McAlpine sister-in-law 27 (b. 1883)
In 1920, Ellen H Henagar (mrd name) was 43, married to Joseph W. Rucker 54, and had living with her in the house Ellen Hope 71 (b. 1849) and Elizabeth Hope 36. (b. 1884)
1930: Haleyville, Winston, Al
- Joseph W. Rucker 65
- Ellen H 53 (b. 1877)
- Ellen Mc Alphinia 80 (b.1850)
- Bettie Mc Alphinia 47 (b. 1883)
- Milton E Grover 40
- Ellen Grover 33 (B. 1897) –this Ellen had been the wife of Benners Brasfield Vail, who is, at this time, living in El Paso with none of his children from 1820, a new Army wife and new children, but now she is the wife of Milton E. Grover.
- *** Ben B Grover 16 – this is Benners Brasfield Vail, I’m thinking. He was 7 in 1820
- Neel R Grover 12 – and this is the age Ellen R Vail would be. Evidently, Mary didn’t live.
There is an obituary in the Birmingham News, Late Final edition pg 14, date Aug 15 1963 for Mrs. Ellen H.. Vail Grover. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=GRO&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=3&GScntry=4&GSsr=1161&GRid=93068856&
Ellen H Grover, b. 9 Feb 1896 Epes, Sumter County Al, died 12 Aug 1963 buried Forest Hill Cemetery, Jeff County, section 11.
Also:
Ellen Hope Grover (Henagan) b. about 1896 d. 12 Aug 1963 in Anniston, Calhoun AL, father: James Henagan, mother: Ellen Hope. FHL flim 1909056 (Al death and burials index)
Death record: Ellen McAlpine Rucker b. 5 Jun 1876 d. 8 Feb 1938 in Birmingham, Jefferson County, Al. Father: John W. McAlpine, Ellen Easton. (find citation – why didn’t I record it?)
And again: Ellen Hope Mrs. Henegan married Joseph Wiley Rucker in Green in 1906.
So this is Ellen Hope McAlpine Henegan Rucker.
Ellen McAlpine Rucker b 5 Jun 1876 d 8 Feb 1938 in Birmingham, Jefferson County, Al. Father: John W. McAlpine, Ellen Easton.
But again: Ellen Hope Mrs. Henegan married Joseph Wiley Rucker in Green in 1906
Ellen Hope III: born about 1896
Se See Ellen I for military record of John W. McAlpine – she is named as his granddaughter.
1900:
- Ellen H Henagan 28 in Jones’s Bluff, Sumter, Al milliner (b. 1872)
- Ellen H Henagan 4 (b. 1896)
1910, Forkland, Greene, Al
- Joseph Rucker, head M2 (twice) 3 years present marriage 45 Missouri, KY VA
- Ellen 33, M2 (twice) 3 years this one. (b. 1877)
- Ellen H Henagan dtr 14 S ALà (b. 1896)
- Joe Rucker son 11 (child of Joseph’s first marriage)
- Elizabeth McAlpine sister in law 27 (b. 1883)
** Brenners B married Ellen Hope 31 July 1912 Actually, this is Brenners Brasfield Vail marrying Ellen Hope Henagan, daughter of Mrs. Ellen Hope Henagan.
Also:
Alabama Select Marriages: Benners Brasfield Vail md. 31 July 1912 in Greene, Alabama to Ellen Hope Henegan FHL: 1290854 Item 2, p37
Post Card: “To Uncle Fleming and Aunt Maggie, from Ellen R Vail, 3 yrs, Dec 26 1920. We will move to El Paso, Tex. In February. B’s back in the army stationed at El Paso. Love for all – Hope.”
1920: Forkland, Greene Alabama
- ** Benners W Vail 27 (b. 1893) This is Brenners B – the census initial is indeterminate. Could be “B”
- Ellen H Vail 24 (b. 1896)
- *** Benners B Vail 7 (b. 1913)
- Mary E 4 (b. 1916)
Ellen R. Vail 2 (b. 1918)
1930: Haleyville, Winston, Al
- Joseph W. Rucker 65
- Ellen H 53 (b. 1877)
- Ellen Mc Alphinia 80 (b.1850)
- Bettie Mc Alphinia 47 (b. 1883)
- Milton E Grover 40
- Ellen Grover 33 (B. 1897) –it seems logical that this Ellen had been the wife of Benners Brasfield Vail, who is, at this time, living in El Paso with none of his children from 1820, a new Army wife and new children, but now she is the wife of Milton E. Grover.
- *** Ben B Grover 16 – this is Benners Brasfield Vail, I’m thinking. He was 7 in 1820
- Neel R Grover 12 – and this is the age Ellen R Vail would be. Evidently, Mary didn’t live.
A death record in Alabama states: Also: Ellen Hope Grover (Henagan) b. about 1896 d. 12 Aug 1963 in Anniston, Calhoun AL, father: James Henagan, mother: Ellen Hope. FHL flim 1909056 (Al death and burials index)
Ellen IV: Born about 1917, December 26. Not Ellen Hope, now. But Ellen R.
Post Card: “To Uncle Fleming and Aunt Maggie, from Ellen R Vail, 3 yrs, Dec 26 1920. We will move to El Paso, Tex. In February. B’s back in the army stationed at El Paso. Love for all – Hope.”
1920: Forkland, Greene Alabama
- ** Benners W Vail 27 (b. 1893) This is Brenners B – the census initial is indeterminate. Could be “B”
- Ellen H Vail 24 (b. 1896)
- *** Benners B Vail 7 (b. 1913)
- Mary E 4 (b. 1916)
- Ellen R. Vail 2 (b. 1918)
1930: Haleyville, Winston, Al
- Joseph W. Rucker 65
- Ellen H 53 (b. 1877)
- Ellen Mc Alphinia 80 (b.1850)
- Bettie Mc Alphinia 47 (b. 1883)
- Milton E Grover 40
- Ellen Grover 33 (B. 1897) –it seems logical that this Ellen had been the wife of Benners Brasfield Vail, who is, at this time, living in El Paso with none of his children from 1820, a new Army wife and new children, but now she is the wife of Milton E. Grover.
- *** Ben B Grover 16 – this is Benners Brasfield Vail, I’m thinking. He was 7 in 1820
- Neel R Grover 12 – and this is the age Ellen R Vail would be. Evidently, Mary didn’t live.
1940: There’s an Ellen Vail in Lee, Auburn, Al who is 22 (b. 1918) Single Alabama, Birmingham, Jeff, Ala. She operated some machine -= renting a home with 2 lodgers.
There’s a SS Death index record for Ellen V. Pace, last lived in Anniston, Calhoun, Al b. 26 Dec 1917 (the same date on the post card), died 20 Oct 2000.
