This is concerning the Swancey/Swanzy/Swanzey/Swancy family’s ties to the Andersons, the John Read Longs, and the James Longs.
It takes some time to tease out the various neighborhoods and relationships but the way it falls out in my book is:
Lucy Long Anderson, dtr of Walter Anderson married John Wilson Swancey
Lucy Long, dtr of John Read Long married Dr. Samuel Swanzey
Lucy Long dtr of James Long married Richard L. Anderson, brother of Lucy Long Anderson. In doing this, Lucy Long because Lucy Long Anderson also.
And these were not the only Lucy Longs in the neighborhood. There were daughters and nieces and cousins, too.
The Samuel Swanzey family:
Lucy who married Dr. Swanzey had died by 1819, which is when we find the will of her father, John Read Long. I had thought, then, that she had died first, having seen that the partition of her husband’s estate happened in about 1822. But his actual estate was administered in 1817.
The 1800 census has both parents enumerated as 16-25 with no children, born, then, 1775-1784. The 1810 census has both parents pegged at 26-44. But if we factor in the 1800 census, they’d be 26-35 – still born between 1775 – 1784.
One document dated 1818 states that Rosanna, Eliza Caroline, Mary Martha, Louiza Lucy Swanzy, are minors under 14 years. Thus, the oldest of these was born by 1804, and the youngest by 1818. Sarah Ann and Robert were minors OVER the age of 14, suggesting that one of them could have been born as early as 1798. Except for the fact that, in 1800, there were no children.
So the marriage seems to have happened in around 1800.
[It has been suggested that Sarah Ann Long was the sister who married Dr. Swanzey, but John R. Long had no daughter, Sarah Ann. He and a Sarah Ann Swanzey execute a note to James Swanzey, the admin of Samuel, who appears to be his brother – but they are the father-in-law and his granddaughter. Later, Sarah Ann marries, or so it appears (I haven’t done a lot of lateral research on this line), William Turner.]
Dr. Samuel had a daughter named Louisa Lucy Swancey who is sometimes mistaken for two girls. Sometimes she is referred to as Lucy L.
The Anderson Family (James Long): Richard L (probably Long) Anderson, son of Walter Anderson and brother of Lucy Long Anderson, married Lucy Long, daughter of James Long. Richard’s birth date is established by the family bible record, 1 June 1779. His Lucy is listed in the 1850 census of that county and is said to have been born about 1775
The John Wilson Swancey family (probably brother of Dr. Samuel):
He married the sister of Richard L Anderson, Lucy Long Anderson, dtr of. Walter Anderson, born in 1783, as established by the bible record.
Records:
Here are the basic records needed in deciphering the Lucy girls. I may have included this in my Anderson notes. Or maybe not. I’m only doing this page now because someone messed with my lines on Family Search – merging without first checking with the submitter or reading the sources. And then I had to go back through and remember all this, figured out first long ago.
Young’s Abbeville Wills and Probates transcription:
53/1254
John Read Long: Will dated Jan 12 1819 in Abbeville Dist. Filed Mar 15, 1819 Execs: wife Sarah Long, son Reuben Long and Joel Lipscomb Esq. Wit: Jno Pulliam, Robert Young, Alexander Sample. Chn: Harrison, Reuben, Nicholas Long. Elizabeth Shirley, Lucy Swancy dec., Nancy Greenlee, Alcey Sample. Aug 21, 1822 pd. James N Sample 100.00. Joshua Shirley $678.25. Lewis W. Greenlee 1000.37.
[Lucy Swancey is deceased – and John Read’s wife’s name was Sarah Long] There is no daughter named Sarah. Only Elizabeth Shirley, Lucy Swancy and Nancy Greenely and Alcey Sample.
Pg 295. Dr. Samuel Swanzey 86/2106
Est admin Oct 6 1817 by James Swanzey, James Hodges, Joseph Eakins bnd to Taliaferro Livingston Ord. Abbeville Dist sum 10K Cit published at Siloam Church. Wm Wier Gdn. Sarah Ann, Robert W, Rosanna, Eliza Caroline, Mary Ann, Louisa Swanzey Minor Children of Dr Saml Swanzey. Pd David Stewart for raising of one child Lucy L Swanzey $201.94
Pg 296. Robert Swanzey 87/2120
Will dated June 20 1795 recorded June 13 1796 execs: Wife: Rosannah Swanzey. Son Saml Swanzey. Wit Memn Walker, Alex Welch, Jacob Ege, Thomas, Daniel Gratten. Chldrn: Jenn, John, Saml Swanzey (At a court held for Greenbrier Co in VA, sept 27 1795, the last will and testament of Robt Swanzey was proved by John Stuart, Clerk of court.) Inv made July 30, 1896 by Alex Sample, Walter Anderson, Nathan Simms.
Pg 297. John Wilson Swancy 87/2127
Will dated Jan 6 1804 in Abbeville Dist. Execs: wife Lucy, Sam’l Swancy, Samuel Anderson. Wit: John H, Henry H Marable, Burnal Russell,. Son: Robert Swancey. (State of of NC Northhampton County). March sessions 1804. This the will was exhibited into court and duly proved by the oath of John Marable one of the witnesses. Sale April 13, 1804. Byrs: Dr. Sam’l, Lucy Swanzy, Walter Anderson Sr. , Capt John Hodges. Thomas Pinson, Elisha Weatherford, James Campbell, David Steel, etc.
Pg 363: Hezekiah Watson 102/2503
Est Adm Oct 27, 1828 by John W. Swanzy, Richard Anderson, George W Hodges bhnd etc. Greenville church. Inv 1828 by Wm Dunn, James Hodges, A.C., Edward Weatherall. Alae Nove 1828 byrs Gilla Watson, Rosannah Moor, Sam, Richard L Anderson etc. [Richard L Anderson was married to Lucy Long, dtr of James Long, and Richard was brother of Lucy Long Anderson who married John Wilson Swanzey].
Pg 434. Swanzy minors: 110/3146
Feb 2 1818 John R Long, Alexander Sample, William Grubbs bd to Taliaferro Livingston, Ord, Abbeville Dist $15k. John R Long made gdn of Rosanna, Eliza Caroline, Mary Martha, Louiza Lucy Swanzy, minors under 14 years. Sarah Ann, Robert W Swanzy minors over 14 years. Minors of Dr. S. Swanzy.
Equity:
Johnson, Jabez W H etal vs Bozeman, John B etal 5/127 1856 part Thomas R Puckett orator. They have taken over the franchise on Swancy’s Ferry (on the road that goes from Fishdam Ford on Broad River to Barksdales Ferry on the Savannah. This file gives the history of the ferry. Historical and interesting. But along came William Abney and pard who made their own little illegal ferry a mile down and are cutting into business
Swanzy, Louise gdn vs Swanzy, Sarah Ann etal 16/432 1824 Swanzy, Swancey – spelled many ways. William Wier, Harrison Long, James Tatom, Reuben Long, Samuel Swanzy, Louisa, minor child. Samuel. Accts. Wier gdn. Mrs? Wilson Crain, Mr? William Turner?, Mr. Robert Swanzy, Eliza Caroline, mary. Settlement with John R Long’s exec for mom’s partition. Dad’s land in AL. Sarah Ann and William Turner. Lucenarla? Louisa? Swancy? 1824. Sarah Ann, Robert, Rosana (21+), Caroline, Mary and louisa. William Crain? gdn. Louisa. David Stuart. A Sample. Joel Smith.
Pulliam, Wiley vs Le Clue, Pascal 19/516 1846 John B. davis + wf Elizabeth Pulliam Davis ofLafayette, Miss. Pascal le Clue admin James Pulliam. Rody wid. (hard to read) Joel Fooshe. John Pulliam dec. Chldrn: Larkin, Wm. Jos., Richard, Elizabeth, Sarah, –David , Stephan, Benj. (dec – other sources say this is Lucy Anderson Sims Swancy’s husband). john bro. to Rhoda Pulliam (Pettigrew?), Zachary (dec chld), John?, Harriet? – md. Dr. James Ware), Caroline-md. Mark L Stuart). I have Zachy and Rob’t – chdrn of Caroline? Martha Fooshe (Phashee?) dec: chldrn: Jack (wait is he the father? Be sure to read this yourself) Charles Fooshe, Wm. (dec), Patsey Fooshe Cheatham-md. John Cheatham), Henry Fooshe
Pulliam, Benjamin and Lucy wf 25/667 1851 dispute Benjamin, a nephew of Rhoda Pulliam, md. Lucy Anderson Swancy Sims (daughter of Walter Anderson). He died in 1832. She died in Aug 1836, leaving 4 daughters: Mary (md. Lewis Busby), Mahala (md. Matthew H. Bryson – Alabama), Rhoda (md. William Sanders Pontotoc County Miss), Eliza Ann (md. Thomas W. Brooks – Abbeville). This complaint has to do with Benjamin’s aunt Rhoda Pulliam (she was a Pulliam who married James Pulliam) who died without issue and who evidently promised a slave, Leah, to the four girls. Leah lived with them, but went back to Rhoda for one of many stated and suggested reasons. Lucy died, they married, rhoda died – now they want Leah and her many children.
Hodges, Geo W vs Swanzey, John W. 39 / 2123 1824 gdn claim on est “My share in case of Lucy Pulliam and others vs. James Swanzey and Samuel Anderson.” Robert Delph and G.W. Hodges bond. John W. Swancey is a minor over 14 years. 1858-61?
Crain, Wm W vs Swancy, Eliza C and Louisa 39/2155 1827
Bonds, Guardianship 41/2208 1821 gdn Dr. James A Ward, Dudly Richardson, Thomas B Pollard: Charles D. Pollard, James Pollard dec. wit: Charles Mayson. William Wier, Joel Lipscomb, Thomas Wier: Caroline, Mary and Louisa Swanzy (Dr. L? S? Swanzy dec). James, Moses Taggart sr. and Pat Calhoun: Elizabeth, William, Mary, Margaaret, Sarah Gray. James harris, Sam Linton, John Ellington: Lucy, nancy, Susan, Sally, harriet Wooldridge. Archey ?, Charles C Mayson: Nimrod Chiles. James E Glen, John Power: Stephen, Martin Mitchell (Benj. Mitchell dec).
Weir, Wm vs Swanzy, Sarah etal 41/2209 1821 gdn Robert W. Swanzy, Wilson Craise? Dr. Samuel Swanzy dec. William Turner. children: Sarah Ann, Robert, Rosanna Swanzy.
Pulliam, Lucy etal vs Swanzy, James 42 /2297 1824 William Ware, gdn of several children of Dr. S. S. Swanzy. Wilson Crane? William? Turner. John W. Swanzy (share of father’s estate). Samuel Anderson Estate of Robert Swanzy (Sam exec).
Owens, Martha , Sarah, Catherine vs Simpson, Edwin G., Thomas Payne 50/2741 1852 Long complaint Sarah Cunningham, old wid lady (72-73 yrs) dec 3-1851. No kids. Brother: Ronb’t Campbell. Laurens.. Joel Smith. Near Swanzy’s Ferry. Had 5 persons of color who she loved and wanted to provide for. Some heirs were less than graceful about it. Long, interesting story. Wit: Waller B. merriwether, Joel Smith, Thomas R. Puckett, George Anderson, Allen vance, MG Overby, R.M. Puckett, Wm. Smith, John Wl – neighbors at Swanzy’s
Neely, Charles vs John Cochran 52/2885 1831 Mortgage Charles buys former res of Walter Anderson (dec)on Saluda. With John Cochran. 262 acres bnd by Rob’t Swanzy, James Caldwell, Leland Puckett, Thomas Long, Mary Wells (estate Moses Wells), Washington Sample 1829
Pulliam, Lucy etal vs Lesley 53/3014 1829 mort 20 November 1829. Same mort with Dave Lesly . Lucy Pulliam, Charles Neely, Robert Swanzy $300 on same deal as the rest of the Walter Anderson buyers. Martin? Fortune? the slave she was assigned in the partition for security. Wit Alexander Stuart, Patrick McDowall.
Pulliam, Lucy etal vs Swanzy, James etal 60/3271 1821 Lucy, wid of John Wilson Swanzy dec.1804 T in NC on a trip. 2 sons: Robert, John W (unborn at his death). G.W. Hodges, gdn of two boys. This is a complaint that these two boys should have part in their grandfather’s estate by claim of their father. It is quite long and convoluted: Robert Swanzy (Swancy, Swanzey, etc), in 1774 had been possessed of 130 acres on the Saluda and a valulable ferry called Swancey’s Ferry. Wanted to move to Virginia and agreed with Sylvann? Wacker (a liar) to swap properties for land in Greenbrier Co VA. Got there and found no such land. Stayed a year, and was going to move back, but he died, Testate. His widow, Rosanna, with John, went back to SC, won back their property then returned to VA for the rest of the fam.
Pulliam, Lucy etal vs Swanzy, James etal 60/ 3271 1821 cont.: Samuel Swanzy (who would become Dr. Samuel S.) and Samuel Nesbitt appt execs. Rosannah bought 200 acres then dec i. Ferry was sold to Dabney Puckett – who didn’t pay. Then Mr. Pinson. James Swancy, another brother in Spartanburgh. Samuel dec i a few years ago in AL. James administrator. Harrison Long the AL admin. Lucy’s John dec 1804 T. Samuel Anderson exec with Samuel Anderson (Walter Anderson’s son). Other defendants: Wilson Crane and Rosanna wf., of Edgefield, William Turner and Sarah Ann wf., William Wier gdn. of minors (formly gdn of md. daughters also) , Robert Swanzy, Eliza C, mary, Louisa Swanzy – minors of Dr. Samuel.dec.
Pulliam, Lucy etal Swanzy, James etal 60/ 3271 1821 cont: Here’s were it can get messy: Estate of John R Long, dec – father of wife of Dr. Samuel Swancy or Swancey: Lucy Long Swancey. (John’s wife was Lucy Long Anderson Swanzy). The above minors had part in that estate in right of their dec. mother. Now – There were 9 distributees of Robert and Rosannah Swanzy. John (dec in North Hampton Co, NC) was one. Sales names for one of these estates: Alexander Sample, Dr. Sam Swanzy, Robert Batrum?, Samuel Anderson, James Campbell, Alexander Stewart, Richard Griffin, Elisha Weatherall, Joel Lipscomb, Howard Pinsen, Henry Johnston, Pleasant Wright, Capt John Hodges, John Sims, John Read Long, Little Berry Bostick, John Rabison?, Richard Long Anderson, David Steel, James Campbell, John Sample. Richard Duty. Lucy Swancy wid., James Hodges.
Pulliam, Lucy etal Swanzy, James etal 60/3271 1821 cont: WILL of John Wilson Swancy: sales list after will: Many of the above along with Walter Anderson sr. Robert White, Thomas Pinsen, Eliasha Weatherford, John Robertson, Benjamin Chiles. Robert Swancy’s sales were all to family. INV: Alexander Sample, Walter Anderson, Mathan Sims 1796. WILL of Robert: dtr: Jenn? 2 sons: John and Samuel. witness testimonies about case: Elizabeth Pulliam, wf of John, Mary Anderson of house of Benjamin Pulliam. Her husband: Samuel Anderson. Joel Lispcomb and james Franklin.
Long, Reuben and Joel Lipscomb Turner*, Wm etal 70/3580 1822 part dispute John R. Long and Sarah Ann Swanzy execue note to admin James swanzy, admin of Dr. Samual Swanzy. dec.
Swancy Swanzey, Dr. Samuel dec 70 cont./ 3580 1822 part dispute: Dr. Married one of John R. Long’s daughters. Died intestate leaving young children: Sarah Ann, rosanna, Robt Wilson, Eliza Caroliine, Mary Ann and Louisa – david Stewart as guuard.? Sarah Ann md. William Turner. Rosanna Crane?
Commissioner’s Report 45 / 2467 1825 – 26 : Many names. Elijah Foster, gdn Peggy, thomas, Eliz., Sarah Thompson. Robert Rowan, daniel rowan. Jane nelson g thomas, Eliz, Orry, Sally, Drury nelson. samuel Patsy Sears? G Austin, Richard and lewis Pollard. Robert McClean? James and Ebenezer Foster. Isaac and charity Whitaker? Polly and Major Clark. Israel Pickens gd Israel and Sarah Dejournette. John downey Caroline Cook. Edmund Beasley? (beazly?) Braggely? gdn Eliz, Marg, Edward, James, John, Polly, Jesse and Balinda Caldwell. Dudly richardson gdn Oswell Richardson. GW. Hodges gdn John Swanzey. Wm Lomax gdn P.H. Davis. samuel Davis: Willis, Wiley, Liz pulliam. Many others